MPSS or new Conti ExtremeContact Sport?

mineral_f30 · 03-08-2017, 04:43 PM

Debating on whether to purchase the tried and true MPSS or try the new Conti ExtremeContact Sport.

Tire sizes
235/40/19
265/35/19

Some say the MPSS are discounted because of the MPS 4S are out, but I haven't really found any reduced prices online.

Prices may vary depending when you click on the link, as supply and demand may change, but this is how much they are as of right now.

Michelin Pilot Super Sport on Tire Rack $1,095

Conti ExtremeContact Sport on Tire Rack $984

I'm not interested in the MPS 4S at the moment, as they're more expensive and a little heavier than the other two.

Comparisons:

HTML Code:

             235/40/19                 |    265/35/19
             Weight      Tread Width   |     Weight       Tread Width
                                       |                                   
MPSS         23 lbs.     9.2 inches    |     25 lbs.        9.3 inches
Conti ECS    22 lbs.     8.2 inches    |     25 lbs.        9.4 inches
MPS 4S       24 lbs.     8.5 inches    |     27 lbs.        9.6 inches

Thoughts?

Jeremiah5238 · 03-08-2017, 06:13 PM

If you do any research (AKA googling) you will find that MPSS consistently sits on top of the max performance summer tire. It's the closest thing to a track tire you can buy while still getting daily drivability.

Kabrich · 03-09-2017, 01:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah5238

If you do any research (AKA googling) you will find that MPSS consistently sits on top of the max performance summer tire. It's the closest thing to a track tire you can buy while still getting daily drivability.

Except for the newer Continent that beat the MPSS on every measurable metric in every reputable Independent European Test from 2016.

Cannot speak for Continental ExtremeContact Sports as these are different from SportContact 6.

x328x · 03-09-2017, 07:07 AM

These beat the mpss

http://www.motormag.com.au/events/ty...16-the-verdict

dr.roro · 03-09-2017, 08:23 AM

Michelin PS4S all the way.

But they are all great tires in the end...

Jeremiah5238 · 03-09-2017, 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Except for the newer Continent that beat the MPSS on every measurable metric in every reputable Independent European Test from 2016.

Cannot speak for Continental ExtremeContact Sports as these are different from SportContact 6.

Yea maybe, but I have no experience with them and I know what I have researched. I don't think either tire will make that much of a difference either way. They are both making some really good tires these days.

Kabrich · 03-09-2017, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah5238

Yea maybe, but I have no experience with them and I know what I have researched. I don't think either tire will make that much of a difference either way. They are both making some really good tires these days.

Simply check out post #2 in this thread....

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1345124

Suspect your research did not include SC6 in lineup.

Jeremiah5238 · 03-09-2017, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Simply check out post #2 in this thread....

http://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1345124

Suspect your research did not include SC6 in lineup.

I get it bro, you are just trying to sell your tires. I am not loyal to Michelin nor Continental, and there isn't much info out for head to head comparisons, but this article does a head to head and the MPSS wins.

Jeremiah5238 · 03-09-2017, 05:52 PM

The test shows the CES6 winning on most of the tangible measurements though.

Polo08816 · 03-09-2017, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Except for the newer Continent that beat the MPSS on every measurable metric in every reputable Independent European Test from 2016.

Cannot speak for Continental ExtremeContact Sports as these are different from SportContact 6.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah5238

I get it bro, you are just trying to sell your tires. I am not loyal to Michelin nor Continental, and there isn't much info out for head to head comparisons, but this article does a head to head and the MPSS wins.

LOL. Our resident Continental salesperson, Kabrich , is back!

Kabrich · 03-10-2017, 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah5238

I get it bro, you are just trying to sell your tires. I am not loyal to Michelin nor Continental, and there isn't much info out for head to head comparisons, but this article does a head to head and the MPSS wins.

Lol. I said reputable.

This reviewer admits that SC6 won all measurable metrics, but says he prefers MPSS based on the way feel drives on the edge and the feedback given.

Now, skip ahead to his MPSS v MPS4S comparison where he claims the MPS4S loses that feel, but no one will notice so it doesn't matter.

So it mattered 5 months ago...but doesn't matter now.

Of course, he also admits Michelin flying him 10k miles to Palm Springs, putting him up in Ritz Carlton with World reknown Michelin Chefs and big swag to test the S4S.

Reputation (and consistency) matters.

Jeremiah5238 · 03-10-2017, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kabrich

Lol. I said reputable.

This reviewer admits that SC6 won all measurable metrics, but says he prefers MPSS based on the way feel drives on the edge and the feedback given.

Now, skip ahead to his MPSS v MPS4S comparison where he claims the MPS4S loses that feel, but no one will notice so it doesn't matter.

So it mattered 5 months ago...but doesn't matter now.

Of course, he also admits Michelin flying him 10k miles to Palm Springs, putting him up in Ritz Carlton with World reknown Michelin Chefs and big swag to test the S4S.

Reputation (and consistency) matters.

You do realize that you quoted the same source in your post you referred me to...

mineral_f30 · 03-10-2017, 10:19 AM

Can we please get back on topic?

I am specifically asking for opinions on MPSS vs. Conti ECS.
If you don't have anything relevant of value to contribute, leave your comments to yourself or pm each other.

After 10 replies, not one has been helpful. Thanks.

Polo08816 · 03-10-2017, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineral_f30

Can we please get back on topic?

I am specifically asking for opinions on MPSS vs. Conti ECS.
If you don't have anything relevant of value to contribute, leave your comments to yourself or pm each other.

After 10 replies, not one has been helpful. Thanks.

1 too many used tire salesmen on here.

Jeremiah5238 · 03-10-2017, 11:06 AM

Sorry OP, but this post will not have any sort of tangible input because the tires are too new. There aren't any comparison tests to refer back to so all you are going to get are opinions. I would say go with the tried and true MPSS and wait until you can get more data on the Contis for a possible future purchase.

Kabrich · 03-10-2017, 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jeremiah5238

You do realize that you quoted the same source in your post you referred me to...

Exactly.

And pointed out how they are not credible for reversing what is important subjectively to fit their needs.

Kabrich · 03-11-2017, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineral_f30

Can we please get back on topic?

I am specifically asking for opinions on MPSS vs. Conti ECS.
If you don't have anything relevant of value to contribute, leave your comments to yourself or pm each other.

After 10 replies, not one has been helpful. Thanks.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mineral_f30

Debating on whether to purchase the tried and true MPSS or try the new Conti ExtremeContact Sport.

Tire sizes
235/40/19
265/35/19

Some say the MPSS are discounted because of the MPS 4S are out, but I haven't really found any reduced prices online.

Prices may vary depending when you click on the link, as supply and demand may change, but this is how much they are as of right now.

Michelin Pilot Super Sport on Tire Rack $1,095

Conti ExtremeContact Sport on Tire Rack $984

I'm not interested in the MPS 4S at the moment, as they're more expensiveand a little heavier than the other two.

Comparisons:

HTML Code:

             235/40/19                 |    265/35/19
             Weight      Tread Width   |     Weight       Tread Width
                                       |                                   
MPSS         23 lbs.     9.2 inches    |     25 lbs.        9.3 inches
Conti ECS    22 lbs.     8.2 inches    |     25 lbs.        9.4 inches
MPS 4S       24 lbs.     8.5 inches    |     27 lbs.        9.6 inches

Thoughts?

MPS4S

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3_Socal

Costco has them on sale ($70 manufacturer coupon expiring 3/12). 255/35/19 & 275/35/19 for $1100 including tax. Just picked up a set today. Extra set available @ Costco Alhambra.

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3_Socal

Call your local Costco and ask. It's not posted online. Those were ordered by the manager a week ago.

$1100 was for 255/35/19 and 275/35/19

As thus, your sizes 235/40/19 265/19/19 should be cheaper than $1100 and cheaper than the MPSS.

Further, the $70 off also applies to the MPSS, if that is route you are determined to take.

unrealii · 03-11-2017, 07:34 PM

^^ Costco gave me soo much hassle to install a non-rft tire on a car with factory rft's. Not saying to avoid them but be prepared

Delete1 · 03-14-2017, 10:45 AM

I say go for the contis dude.
1. better treadwear
2. better price
3. lighter
4. same or better performance

to me its a win win with just those factors. unless you are a heavy tracker it wont make a huge difference in my opinion. Save yourself some cash that's always a plus!

mineral_f30 · 03-14-2017, 10:55 AM

Great, thanks for your input.

Theoretically, let's say the prices come down for the MPSS and they're the same price as the Contis. Would you still choose them?
As you can tell, I'm still on the fence.

Just wondering about the tread width (contact patch) for the fronts.
There's a quite large 1-inch difference between the MPSS (9.2 inches) vs. the Conti ECS (8.2 inches) for the same 235mm section width. The Contis must have very rounded shoulders. I wouldn't be surprised if they look stretched on 8.5 inch wheels. They'd probably look more like 225s.

Polo08816 · 03-14-2017, 12:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Supremeceas

I say go for the contis dude.
1. better treadwear
2. better price
3. lighter
4. same or better performance

to me its a win win with just those factors. unless you are a heavy tracker it wont make a huge difference in my opinion. Save yourself some cash that's always a plus!

Fake news.

Kabrich · 03-14-2017, 09:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Polo08816

Fake news.

Michelin Cult

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mineral_f30 Private 12 Rep 95 Posts Drives: '13 335i, '18 X3 M40i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	MPSS or new Conti ExtremeContact Sport? Debating on whether to purchase the tried and true MPSS or try the new Conti ExtremeContact Sport. Tire sizes 235/40/19 265/35/19 Some say the MPSS are discounted because of the MPS 4S are out, but I haven't really found any reduced prices online. Prices may vary depending when you click on the link, as supply and demand may change, but this is how much they are as of right now. Michelin Pilot Super Sport on Tire Rack $1,095 Conti ExtremeContact Sport on Tire Rack $984 I'm not interested in the MPS 4S at the moment, as they're more expensive and a little heavier than the other two. Comparisons: HTML Code: 235/40/19 \| 265/35/19 Weight Tread Width \| Weight Tread Width \| MPSS 23 lbs. 9.2 inches \| 25 lbs. 9.3 inches Conti ECS 22 lbs. 8.2 inches \| 25 lbs. 9.4 inches MPS 4S 24 lbs. 8.5 inches \| 27 lbs. 9.6 inches Thoughts?
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Jeremiah5238 Private 22 Rep 94 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Olympia, WA iTrader: (0)	The test shows the CES6 winning on most of the tangible measurements though.
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mineral_f30 Private 12 Rep 95 Posts Drives: '13 335i, '18 X3 M40i Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Can we please get back on topic? I am specifically asking for opinions on MPSS vs. Conti ECS. If you don't have anything relevant of value to contribute, leave your comments to yourself or pm each other. After 10 replies, not one has been helpful. Thanks.
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Jeremiah5238 Private 22 Rep 94 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Olympia, WA iTrader: (0)	If you do any research (AKA googling) you will find that MPSS consistently sits on top of the max performance summer tire. It's the closest thing to a track tire you can buy while still getting daily drivability.
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Jeremiah5238 Private 22 Rep 94 Posts Drives: 2012 BMW 335i Sedan Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Olympia, WA iTrader: (0)	Sorry OP, but this post will not have any sort of tangible input because the tires are too new. There aren't any comparison tests to refer back to so all you are going to get are opinions. I would say go with the tried and true MPSS and wait until you can get more data on the Contis for a possible future purchase.
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Delete1 Banned 34 Rep 231 Posts Drives: 1 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: China iTrader: (0)	I say go for the contis dude. 1. better treadwear 2. better price 3. lighter 4. same or better performance to me its a win win with just those factors. unless you are a heavy tracker it wont make a huge difference in my opinion. Save yourself some cash that's always a plus!
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