Red or Black ?

mikem · 04-20-2008, 12:00 PM

Hi guys, not posted in a while, been busy at work and at the `ring last weekend. (Good to meet you and the wife, Dave. hope you had a safe trip back

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Hypothetically speaking which would you choose and why ? Both cars are a simillar value, age and mileage but Red car is a half-caged clubsport and Black is a Comfort but with Ceramic brakes. Both have Climate and Xenons.

mjh93sa · 04-20-2008, 12:11 PM

I think I'd go with black as it's a little less in your face. But each to their own.

So, are you thinking of changing the Mondeo for one?

Gibbo · 04-20-2008, 12:50 PM

For me the colour would be less important and it would be all about history.

I used to have a boxster and spent a bit of time on Porsche forums. A couple of guys brought 996 GT3s and found out afterwards there first owners had been car sharing clubs and one of the cars had alignment problems (i guess a few prangs) and after a bit of work was brought back by the opc.

I would want to see the log book and talk to the previous owner(s) if I was spending that kind of money on one of these. OPC feels the safer route as if you get a bad un they will have to fix with the warrenty but I guess Pistonheads, etc you can go and see the owner.

Good luck

Bumps · 04-20-2008, 01:42 PM

Black for me mate, assuming that the things Gibbo mentioned are all OK. GT3s just don't look right in red to me. Nice problem to have though!

booforty · 04-20-2008, 02:13 PM

The colour I have my coffee... black

beemerbird · 04-20-2008, 02:19 PM

Definately black. Looks more classy and more expensive than the red one somehow. Suits what style of car it is as well.

Hard life you have love.

Oli · 04-20-2008, 02:28 PM

Black for me, and it has ceramic brakes - Bored of the SC M3??

mikem · 04-20-2008, 02:43 PM

Thanks guys, I have to agree the Black does look less "mid-life crisis" and also more sinister at the same time.

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Originally Posted by beemerbird

Hard life you have love.

ROFL, I wish. `Not unusual for me to leave home at 4 am, drive to London to do a days work then drive home for 11 pm.

mikem · 04-20-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by OliH

Black for me, and it has ceramic brakes - Bored of the SC M3??

I wouldn`t say bored mate, just at a bit of a crossroads with it. It drives superbly at the minute and is rapid to say the least but unless I go daft with the power there`s not alot more to do to it. I did a photoshoot for Performance BMW last week as well, so it will get a feature in either June or July`s edition.

ESS have also just released two upgrade kits, one to 525hp and one to 680hp

so if I don`t get on with a test drive in the GT3 or if the figures don`t add up that`s where I`ll go I guess.

SoYank · 04-20-2008, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem

ROFL, I wish. `Not unusual for me to leave home at 4 am, drive to London to do a days work then drive home for 11 pm.

From Scotland? At what altitude? You need one of these in your back window.

mikem · 04-20-2008, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SoYank

From Scotland? At what altitude? You need one of these in your back window.

I never go above 80 on our motorways, at that time in the morning 5-6 hrs is easy.

beemerbird · 04-20-2008, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by mikem

I never go above 80 on our motorways, at that time in the morning 5-6 hrs is easy.

Yeah, I wondered how you did Scotland to London. Bet you're glad to get back home though.

I also NEVER go above 80 mph on our motorways.

Black then?

Cafe.Racer · 04-20-2008, 05:44 PM

Black. Are the ceramics worth it? Do they cost a packet to replace?

dxb335d · 04-20-2008, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Gibbo

For me the colour would be less important and it would be all about history.

I used to have a boxster and spent a bit of time on Porsche forums. A couple of guys brought 996 GT3s and found out afterwards there first owners had been car sharing clubs and one of the cars had alignment problems (i guess a few prangs) and after a bit of work was brought back by the opc.

I would want to see the log book and talk to the previous owner(s) if I was spending that kind of money on one of these. OPC feels the safer route as if you get a bad un they will have to fix with the warrenty but I guess Pistonheads, etc you can go and see the owner.

Good luck

Im with you, when buying a 2nd hand car colour dont come into it, the right spec mileage and owners and history ETC. AND NO ACCIDENT DAMAGE/REPAIRS.

Also i woudl go for red mate on a gt3.... Now If it was a Turbo id say black.

SoYank · 04-21-2008, 01:25 PM

In the states, that non-black colour is called "Hello Officer Red".

rocketman · 04-21-2008, 01:29 PM

Absolutely BLACK is the way to go! BLACK FTW!!!

Oli · 04-21-2008, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by dxb335d

Im with you, when buying a 2nd hand car colour dont come into it, the right spec mileage and owners and history ETC. AND NO ACCIDENT DAMAGE/REPAIRS.

Also i woudl go for red mate on a gt3.... Now If it was a Turbo id say black.

So colour doesnt come into then, so why the last comment then - youve contradicted yourself.

I think its pretty obvious to all of us the history etc is paramount, so assuming these are straight cars, colour most definately comes into it - I for one would never own a red car or yellow, I would just wait for the right car to come along - And Im sure you'll all agree with this.

Gibbo · 04-21-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by OliH

So colour doesnt come into then, so why the last comment then - youve contradicted yourself.

I think its pretty obvious to all of us the history etc is paramount, so assuming these are straight cars, colour most definately comes into it - I for one would never own a red car or yellow, I would just wait for the right car to come along - And Im sure you'll all agree with this.

I agree, normally yellow

BUT a lambo in yellow or orange...

PhilR · 04-22-2008, 03:16 AM

Definately Black, the Red is too garish (strange coming from someone with a RED 330d), where as the Black looks sleek and classy. It will be harder to keep clean though.

Mind you if I had the opportunity to own a 911 I wouldn't be too bothered about the colour. My 2 kids ain't gunna fit in the back of one for long.

PhilR

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Gibbo Colonel 104 Rep 2,292 Posts Drives: Golf Ed35 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: South East iTrader: (0)	For me the colour would be less important and it would be all about history. I used to have a boxster and spent a bit of time on Porsche forums. A couple of guys brought 996 GT3s and found out afterwards there first owners had been car sharing clubs and one of the cars had alignment problems (i guess a few prangs) and after a bit of work was brought back by the opc. I would want to see the log book and talk to the previous owner(s) if I was spending that kind of money on one of these. OPC feels the safer route as if you get a bad un they will have to fix with the warrenty but I guess Pistonheads, etc you can go and see the owner. Good luck __________________ Golf Ed35 Black with - Black Leather
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Bumps Captain 18 Rep 859 Posts Drives: E92 320i M Sport Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Hampshire, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E92 320i M Sport [0.00]	Black for me mate, assuming that the things Gibbo mentioned are all OK. GT3s just don't look right in red to me. Nice problem to have though!
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booforty Major General 337 Rep 8,811 Posts Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 [0.00]	The colour I have my coffee... black
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beemerbird Major General 172 Rep 7,953 Posts Drives: Merc diesel Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Yorkshire iTrader: (0) Garage List 2010 TTRS [9.00] 2007 Audi S5 [0.00] May 2007 Porsche 99 ... [0.00] March 2007 Porsche ... [0.00] Sep. 2007 E92 335d SE [0.00] July 2006 E90 330i ... [0.00]	Definately black. Looks more classy and more expensive than the red one somehow. Suits what style of car it is as well. Hard life you have love.
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Oli Campervan man 94 Rep 2,667 Posts Drives: RS3 and VW Kombi Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: here, there, everywhere...... iTrader: (1)	Black for me, and it has ceramic brakes - Bored of the SC M3??
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Cafe.Racer Captain 27 Rep 896 Posts Drives: 320d Touring Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Nottingham, UK iTrader: (1)	Black. Are the ceramics worth it? Do they cost a packet to replace? __________________ Phil
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