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      01-22-2017, 09:53 AM   #1
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Lots of timing corrections at high rpm_MHD Stage 1_Log posted

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  • 82k
  • Recently walnut blasted
  • New spark plugs
  • MHD Stage 1 ACN 91 OCT map

I bought the car a month ago. Currently it is bone stock aside from the MHD Stage 1 map

I have not yet replaced coils, so that will be next on the to-do. Any other recommendations for flatlining those timing corrections through the RPM band?

Log here: http://www.datazap.me/u/bcoffin23/lo...-9-10-11-12-23
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how about sharing the log
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how about sharing the log
lol, that would help. I added it to the original post.
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Could be fuel, plugs or coils.
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Looks like you have some shithouse fuel. Do you have access to 93?
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Could be fuel, plugs or coils.
Brand new plugs. OEM spec Bosch plugs.

Could be coils for sure, haven't touched those. Likely fuel.....
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Looks like you have some shithouse fuel. Do you have access to 93?
Lovely state of California makes that impossible.

Currently I am running the Stage 1 ACN 91map. May add 1 gallon of e85 and flash the 93 OCT map.

Thoughts?
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You would need to add more than a gallon from what I understand. Plus, you'd need to know the ethanol percentage at the station you'd be using. This is from an ethanol calculator but the #'s are based on the ethanol content being 85% ethanol. From what I understand it can be substantially lower depending on the time of year as well as region. Probably best to test it if you want to know for sure. These are just for reference as I don't know enough about E85 to speak facts.
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You would need to add more than a gallon from what I understand. Plus, you'd need to know the ethanol percentage at the station you'd be using. This is from an ethanol calculator but the #'s are based on the ethanol content being 85% ethanol. From what I understand it can be substantially lower depending on the time of year as well as region. Probably best to test it if you want to know for sure. These are just for reference as I don't know enough about E85 to speak facts.
Thank you for the reference. Ill start with 2gal, do some logs and report back.
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You would need to add more than a gallon from what I understand. Plus, you'd need to know the ethanol percentage at the station you'd be using. This is from an ethanol calculator but the #'s are based on the ethanol content being 85% ethanol. From what I understand it can be substantially lower depending on the time of year as well as region. Probably best to test it if you want to know for sure. These are just for reference as I don't know enough about E85 to speak facts.
Thank you for the reference. Ill start with 2gal, do some logs and report back.
Me personally, I add 1.5 gallons every fill up and run mhd stage 2+ 91 map
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Lovely state of California makes that impossible.

Currently I am running the Stage 1 ACN 91map. May add 1 gallon of e85 and flash the 93 OCT map.

Thoughts?
NO! Add 1 gallon of e85 and leave the 91 map. It's already knocking its ass off.
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NO! Add 1 gallon of e85 and leave the 91 map. It's already knocking its ass off.
Adding 1 gal e85 and leaving 91OCT is advice I have heard as well.

How will that reduce timing corrections under heavy load?
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Adding 1 gal e85 and leaving 91OCT is advice I have heard as well.

How will that reduce timing corrections under heavy load?
more octane = less chance of detonation
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more octane = less chance of detonation
That's a simple formula. I'm planning to start with 1gal and do the same logging
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Update: I filled up with 2gal e85 and the rest 91oct. Almost all timing corrections are gone.

Original log with 91OCT
http://www.datazap.me/u/bcoffin23/lo...-9-10-11-12-23

New log with 2gal e85
http://www.datazap.me/u/bcoffin23/lo...-9-10-11-12-23
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Update: I filled up with 2gal e85 and the rest 91oct. Almost all timing corrections are gone.

Original log with 91OCT
http://www.datazap.me/u/bcoffin23/lo...-9-10-11-12-23

New log with 2gal e85
http://www.datazap.me/u/bcoffin23/lo...-9-10-11-12-23
I would have suggested adding another gallon to try the 93 map, but it looks like your LPFP will get angry if you add more E to the tank.
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I would have suggested adding another gallon to try the 93 map, but it looks like your LPFP will get angry if you add more E to the tank.
Thanks for the input.

The only mods I have are a secondary cat delete and afe stage 2 power intake.

I'm going to do lpfp, charge pipe, BOV, intercooler, and catless DPs all at once then flash stage 2
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