LCI LED Headlight LED sidemarkers in headlight

Jkenn6 · 12-28-2016, 09:39 AM

Has anyone coded out the LED sidemarkers in the headlights (LED)? My coder can do it on xenon headlights but has not figured out how to shut them on the LCI LED headlights. Any suggestions?

2016 LCI F30

stu14t · 12-29-2016, 04:05 AM

Yes, it is possible. You need to look inside the two FLE modules.

If you can provide line of hex codes currently in DRL_idx, POLI1_idx, POLI2_idx and POLI3_idx

they will look something like: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00

I'll tell you which ones to code to off.

capt_slow · 12-30-2016, 11:47 AM

Coded mine off last night:

FLE43/3006/LM_ID_LT04: Change Werte=04 to Werte=00
FLE43/3006/LM04_Name: Change Werte=0D to Werte=00

FLE44/3006/LM_ID_LT04: Change Werte=04 to Werte=00
FLE44/3006/LM04_Name: Change Werte=0D to Werte=00

stu14t · 12-30-2016, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_slow

Coded mine off last night:

FLE43/3006/LM_ID_LT04: Change Werte=04 to Werte=00
FLE43/3006/LM04_Name: Change Werte=0D to Werte=00

FLE44/3006/LM_ID_LT04: Change Werte=04 to Werte=00
FLE44/3006/LM04_Name: Change Werte=0D to Werte=00

How did you work this out? Be interesting to hear as this is a slightly different way to how I would do this.

capt_slow · 12-30-2016, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by stu14t

How did you work this out? Be interesting to hear as this is a slightly different way to how I would do this.

It was one of the cheat codes built into E-Sys, but it was marked for F15:

Quote:

F15 - Turn off Amber Sidemarker on Headlights

I also Googled those parameters and it led me back to the same discussions about the side-markers.

stu14t · 12-31-2016, 03:09 AM

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Originally Posted by capt_slow

It was one of the cheat codes built into E-Sys, but it was marked for F15:

I also Googled those parameters and it led me back to the same discussions about the side-markers.

I would just double check you haven't inadvertently deleted out another group of LED's on a different setup mode. What you have done is re-assigned a entire setting group to a null value. Each group holds settings that control brightness, priority over other settings and some other values for welcome lights and error trapping. They are not for individual LED groups but can be used for any of the LED's such as the main headlight LED's, the indicators or eyebrows. And then for particular things like, flashing the headlights or (as in this thread) changing the brightness of LED's when the lights are on or off.

It would be much safer to assign the LED off setting group to the side markers, only in the POLI1_idx, POLI2_idx and POLI3_idx, rather than change a value that may be used elsewhere.

Without going through the entire table of LED groups and settings, It's difficult to tell. It may be ok and it's had no other unintended consequences. However, you may have also coded out something as minor as the indicators flashing when the alarm goes off or something important like flashing your headlights.

It's been more luck than judgment it worked for you unless you have a F15

capt_slow · 12-31-2016, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by stu14t

I would just double check you haven't inadvertently deleted out another group of LED's on a different setup mode. What you have done is re-assigned a entire setting group to a null value.
...
It's been more luck than judgment it worked for you unless you have a F15

Oops! Can you blame me? I only had this car for 4 days.

I'll double check if I broke anything else, but in the meantime here are the hex values from my car:

DRL_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 04, 00, 00, 00
POLI1_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI2_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI3_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00

FLE43 and FLE44 have the same values.

stu14t · 12-31-2016, 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_slow

Oops! Can you blame me? I only had this car for 4 days.

I'll double check if I broke anything else, but in the meantime here are the hex values from my car:

DRL_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 04, 00, 00, 00
POLI1_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI2_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI3_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00

FLE43 and FLE44 have the same values.

As I said, you may be ok as I'm not 100% sure how what you did works. You may have re-assigned a setting value or re-routed an individual group of LED's to a null value.

The other way is as follows:

Each one of the ten pairs in the settings correspond to a LED group. inner or outer High beams, inner or outer low beams, side markers, eyebrows and various others to shape the adaptive beams. This can vary from country to country, model to model and if you have adaptive or non-adaptive LED.

The individual two bit hex code is then the setting for brightness, dimming, how they turn on and off etc.

For example, in your settings, the seventh pair controls the DRL halo rings. You can see the setting code goes from 04 in DRL_idx to 06 in POLI1_idx, 2 and POLI3_Idx. The setting code 04 is 100% brightness and setting code 06 is 43% brightness. This is the halo dimming when the lights get turned on.

DRL_Idx : 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 04, 00, 00, 00
POLI1_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI2_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI3_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00

It looks like the forth pair are unique to US cars, so these probably control the side markers.

Try setting them to 00 as setting 00 is off (or can be overridden by other settings)

DRL_Idx : 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 04, 00, 00, 00
POLI1_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI2_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI3_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00

Remember to do each FLE as they correspond to the left and the right headlight respectively.

capt_slow · 12-31-2016, 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu14t

Try setting them to 00 as setting 00 is off (or can be overridden by other settings)

DRL_Idx : 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 04, 00, 00, 00
POLI1_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI2_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00
POLI3_Idx: 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00

Remember to do each FLE as they correspond to the left and the right headlight respectively.

Just did the following:

VO-coded FLE43 and FLE44
Set the three hex values to 00 for both FLE43 and FLE44
FDL-coded FLE43 and FLE44
Power-cycle car

Both side-markers stayed on while on low-beams.

Then, I VO-coded FLE43 and FLE44 again and then FDL-coded back to the F15 values I mentioned earlier. Tested all the lighting scenarios I could find and didnt see anything out of the ordinary. Not a lot of test cases since I'm on non-adaptive LEDs.

Dont think it will help, but I'm on a F020-16-11-502.

stu14t · 01-01-2017, 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_slow

Just did the following:

VO-coded FLE43 and FLE44
Set the three hex values to 00 for both FLE43 and FLE44
FDL-coded FLE43 and FLE44
Power-cycle car

Both side-markers stayed on while on low-beams.

Then, I VO-coded FLE43 and FLE44 again and then FDL-coded back to the F15 values I mentioned earlier. Tested all the lighting scenarios I could find and didnt see anything out of the ordinary. Not a lot of test cases since I'm on non-adaptive LEDs.

Dont think it will help, but I'm on a F020-16-11-502.

My solution didn't work because of priority settings. I'd have got there in the end with a few modifications.

However, I looked deeper into your solution and worked out what it does. I have to admit it's a better solution for turning off the side markers than I proposed. What happens is you are deactivating the mappings for the side marker LED's

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_slow

FLE43/3006/LM_ID_LT04: Change Werte=04 to Werte=00

This disables the 4th pair in the 10 bit settings. The 4th pair only deals with the side markers setting it to a null value 00

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_slow

FLE43/3006/LM04_Name: Change Werte=0D to Werte=00

This disables the mapping of that 4th pair to the LED group itself. 0D in HEX is 13 and looking at how the LED groups are numbered 13 = SML1. Again setting it to a null value of 00 that doesn't exist.

1 = LB1,
2 = LB2,
3 = LB3,
4 = HB1,
5 = HB2,
6 = HB3,
7 = DRL1,
8 = DRL2,
9 = DRL3,
10 = CL1/ML1,
11 = CL2/ML2,
12 = CL3/ML3,
13 = SML1,
14 = SML2,
15 = SML3,
16 = FRAZ1,
17 = AZL1,
18 = AZL2,
19 = AZL3.

capt_slow · 01-01-2017, 12:10 PM

Awesome!

I'm all for elegant solutions, but don't thank me, thank whoever figured it out on the F15.

Almaretto · 01-01-2017, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by capt_slow

It was one of the cheat codes built into E-Sys, but it was marked for F15:

That is my code I added. I have not tested on other series.

stu14t · 01-01-2017, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almaretto

That is my code I added. I have not tested on other series.

Neat solution

This should work across platforms as pair 4 is mapped to the side markers on US cars. It can also be mapped to AZL1 in LED group 17

Almaretto · 01-01-2017, 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu14t

Neat solution

This should work across platforms as pair 4 is mapped to the side markers on US cars. It can also be mapped to AZL1 in LED group 17

I personally keep the sidemarkers and never change factory lumen settings, but not my job to necessarily question as long as individuals understand options. I still always find it amusing that many US drivers want to disable and ECE want to enable.

stu14t · 01-02-2017, 08:05 AM

I can't even see the side marker LED's on my lights. I don't think they exist on EU spec cars.

The only EU legal requirement to have yellow side markers are vehicles over 3m (10ft)

Almaretto · 01-02-2017, 09:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu14t

I can't even see the side marker LED's on my lights. I don't think they exist on EU spec cars.

The only EU legal requirement to have yellow side markers are vehicles over 3m (10ft)

Some EU headlamps do not come with them, so no amount of coding can overcome hardware limitation.

MrMarvin · 01-03-2017, 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by stu14t

I can't even see the side marker LED's on my lights. I don't think they exist on EU spec cars.

The only EU legal requirement to have yellow side markers are vehicles over 3m (10ft)

Surely it's not 3m because that would mean almost every car would need those.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almaretto

Some EU headlamps do not come with them, so no amount of coding can overcome hardware limitation.

If i wan't to try and locate said lamps where about would i find them?

Almaretto · 01-04-2017, 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MrMarvin

If i wan't to try and locate said lamps where about would i find them?

I do not quite understand the question. Are you asking where you would find sidemarkers on existing lamps or purchasing entirely new headlamp?

MrMarvin · 01-04-2017, 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Almaretto

I do not quite understand the question. Are you asking where you would find sidemarkers on existing lamps or purchasing entirely new headlamp?

Asking where they are located, i haven't found a picture with them on yet

Almaretto · 01-04-2017, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by MrMarvin

Asking where they are located, i haven't found a picture with them on yet

It will vary by headlamp type. Older units will have larger orange/ yellow sidemarker:

Newer units, will only have 3 little lights, like my profile pic (my F010 with 552 LED Adaptive lights).

kwat · 08-16-2019, 12:40 PM

Hello, will you help turn off the front marker lamps from the USA in the BMW F48 (X1).
Unfortunately, the above descriptions do not match.
Thanks in advance for the hints.

kubax86 · 08-17-2019, 08:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kwat

Hello, will you help turn off the front marker lamps from the USA in the BMW F48 (X1).
Unfortunately, the above descriptions do not match.
Thanks in advance for the hints.

Just code headlights with ECE FA.
If you have any problems, let me know, I will help.

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stu14t Major 451 Rep 1,201 Posts Drives: 330i MSport Pro Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Scotland iTrader: (0)	Yes, it is possible. You need to look inside the two FLE modules. If you can provide line of hex codes currently in DRL_idx, POLI1_idx, POLI2_idx and POLI3_idx they will look something like: 00, 00, 00, 05, 00, 00, 06, 00, 00, 00 I'll tell you which ones to code to off. __________________ Current - 2021 G20 330i M Sport+ Gone - 2017 F30 335d M Sport + in San Marino Blue Gone - 2015 F30 LCI 320d M Sport+ Step Auto Gone - 2012 F30 320 ED Gone - 2011 E87 118d
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