[JLR1969]

Does anyone know if new BMWs come with locking wheel nuts

Thanks!

[Rbrown]

Both of mine did 18 months ago.

[S1NGH]

Yes they do.

[teaston]

They do, but, they're not very secure as the master key sets are available on ebay!:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22-Pc-1-2-...UAAOSwZtJW9FYF

So I bought some aftermarket Mcgard locks mainly to fit my spacers but also a good piece of mind for better security.

[Jon D]

Originally Posted by teaston

They do, but, they're not very secure as the master key sets are available on ebay!

So I bought some aftermarket Mcgard locks mainly to fit my spacers but also a good piece of mind for better security.

Bl••dy hell, what's the point in BMW having supposedly secure wheel locks. Thanks for posting, think I'll get an alternative set.

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Jon D

Bl••dy hell, what's the point in BMW having supposedly secure wheel locks. Thanks for posting, think I'll get an alternative set.

I know, it's nuts! A year or so ago any listing of them said that you must prove you are in the motor industry to buy them, but of course mechanics could still go round nicking wheels, but now they don't even say that!

[CazuaLLUK]

Mine did

[Jon D]

Originally Posted by teaston

I know, it's nuts!

No, it's bolts

[teaston]

Originally Posted by Jon D

No, it's bolts

Good one!

[Kal101]

Glad I'm using the ones supplied by Lorcan with my spacers now

Just waiting for some smart arse to link to a removal kit for them now.

[JLR1969]

Need the Ultra ones not the standard

[demig]

The locking wheel nuts on the F are garbage, the ones from the E are better. I replaced mine after the locking nut adapter got chewed up the first time the wheel needed removing. The dealer told me it happens a lot, a nice engineering firm in Castleford got the wheel off for me as BMW wanted to grind it off and risk wrecking the wheel.

[M40CCA]

Originally Posted by teaston

They do, but, they're not very secure as the master key sets are available on ebay!:

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22-Pc-1-2-...UAAOSwZtJW9FYF

So I bought some aftermarket Mcgard locks mainly to fit my spacers but also a good piece of mind for better security.

That's the reason I changed my standard ones

[XAlp]

I had to replace my first set of BMW ones last year. On the weekend went to put my winter wheels on - one of them started playing up again - unhappy hamster to say the least. Tempted to try for a refund and get some alternatives as above...Google job or any particular best buys? Cheers

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by demig

The locking wheel nuts on the F are garbage, the ones from the E are better. I replaced mine after the locking nut adapter got chewed up the first time the wheel needed removing. The dealer told me it happens a lot, a nice engineering firm in Castleford got the wheel off for me as BMW wanted to grind it off and risk wrecking the wheel.

Interested to know why they are getting chewed up. Bolts too tight, or corroded?

[XAlp]

Originally Posted by XAlp

I had to replace my first set of BMW ones last year. On the weekend went to put my winter wheels on - one of them started playing up again - unhappy hamster to say the least. Tempted to try for a refund and get some alternatives as above...Google job or any particular best buys? Cheers

The Mcguard ones are a similar concept to the BMW ones as far as I can see - are they just better built?

[XAlp]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Interested to know why they are getting chewed up. Bolts too tight, or corroded?

Chewed in my case first time round - so that on exerting pressure the "key" would just "click off". Feared the same this time (one started clicking off) but WD40 seemed to do the trick.

[t5pilot]

Originally Posted by XAlp

The Mcguard ones are a similar concept to the BMW ones as far as I can see - are they just better built?

McGard make them for BMW - Which is why they look the same. I know this as I've had to have a replacement 'key' ordered in the past due to a snapped one... They're very torque-sensitive!
But to get away from the limited number of BMW lock combinations, better buying the McGard high-security ones. That's what I did anyway when I fitted my spacers. Paid about £35 for a set of longer ones.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by XAlp

Chewed in my case first time round - so that on exerting pressure the "key" would just "click off". Feared the same this time (one started clicking off) but WD40 seemed to do the trick.

Sounds like it was not engaged correctly, personally can't understand how they can chew off within the correct torque range, and/or with proper engagement.

Guess you guys with issues have muck in the bolt head, to prevent proper engagement.

[demig]

Originally Posted by HighlandPete

Sounds like it was not engaged correctly, personally can't understand how they can chew off within the correct torque range, and/or with proper engagement.

Guess you guys with issues have muck in the bolt head, to prevent proper engagement.

Brand new BMW wheels and bolts torqued on in super clean workshop and then completely cleaned by detailer before removal attempt in same workshop. Had only been fitted once and one of them chewed up so it wasn't dirt in this case. I couldn't believe it either but was stood watching, I wasn't impressed. The key bit of the locking adapter in the new ones appears to be pressed into a standard fitting which doesn't seem a great design. We then took it round to the main dealer who chewed a couple of keys trying it and had none left, they told me it happens all the time so the new lockers are quotes "garbage". After getting it removed I went to another dealer to get old style bolts and they told me they have been replacing the new bolts for old style ones on the new cars they are selling to avoid the amount of problems that service have had with this.

[HighlandPete]

Originally Posted by demig

Brand new BMW wheels and bolts torqued on in super clean workshop and then completely cleaned by detailer before removal attempt in same workshop. Had only been fitted once and one of them chewed up so it wasn't dirt in this case. I couldn't believe it either but was stood watching, I wasn't impressed. The key bit of the locking adapter in the new ones appears to be pressed into a standard fitting which doesn't seem a great design. We then took it round to the main dealer who chewed a couple of keys trying it and had none left, they told me it happens all the time so the new lockers are quotes "garbage". After getting it removed I went to another dealer to get old style bolts and they told me they have been replacing the new bolts for old style ones on the new cars they are selling to avoid the amount of problems that service have had with this.

What you are really saying, the key you had was faulty. 140Nm is not really a high figure to cause failure. Did BMW replace for free?

[Lorcan]

The key only properly engages and goes all the way in at one point in a a full rotation so turn it around when fitting to make sure it has a proper purchase. It will semi-engage at other points but then slip when you put any torque on it.

I have also seen the locking heads put on bolts at a slight angle which should be rejected under warranty.

In Germany now many owners have stopped using locking bolts as a) thieves can still get the wheels off or worse b) will damage them trying which possibly won't be covered under your insurance. If you have run-of-the-mill wheels you might want to consider not using lockers.