[Grip Grip]

Apparently the 2011 335is I'm looking at has the N54 engine, and uses the dual clutch 7 speed transmission. Is there any reason to steer clear of this car? Will it require the Alpina tune to defeat the torque limiter in 5th, or is it a no issue? The main reason I plan on dumping my '07 is the torque limiter issue in 5th. I know I could upgrade the VB and TCM, but I'd rather move on.


Thanks for the input.

[SMH]

I would upgrade to a 335is just because its newer than your 07 and it has a better transmission then the plain auto. Not sure if it has that same issue than yours. GL

[Grip Grip]

Originally Posted by SMH

I would upgrade to a 335is just because its newer than your 07 and it has a better transmission then the plain auto. Not sure if it has that same issue than yours. GL

Thanks for the advice. I plan to mod the hell out of it, so that's why I'm trying to be careful with what I buy.

[RSL]

You won't have much fun launching at the track until LC RPM is more adjustable than 5000RPM (stock 335is) or 3500RPM (135is flash). On slicks or DRs, it may be a non-issue, but then you'd have to contend with axles and drive shafts. I only tune on the street, so can't comment on 5th-7th gear limits, but DCT is a whole different animal than AT when it comes to that. I've run over 800nm output without hitting maxed tq limiters...at least in 3rd/4th.

Hopefully, BQ chimes in. When it comes to tuning DCT/looking at DCT logs, there's probably no one that's seen more than him. If he doesn't drop in here, I'd reach out and ask him directly.

I'm not sure what "mod the hell out of it" includes, but if you looking for 575-600+ tq, you'll probably need upgraded clutches at some point.

[SMH]

Originally Posted by Grip Grip

Thanks for the advice. I plan to mod the hell out of it, so that's why I'm trying to be careful with what I buy.

The N54 is such a mod friendly platform, i'd do it if i were you. GL

[tlow98]

Get the manual if you want complete freedom from possibly expensive road blocks.

[maddmatth]

The DCT trans is awesome.
There is no Alpina flash for the DCT, Alpina never used the DCT trans.
And it doesn't need one.

If you do find the trans a bit slow or unresponsive sometimes, getting the latest software update will sort it. Some earlier DME/TCU versions were crap.

[LMB335IS]

Buy it. I'm in the 500whp/550wtq neighborhood with no limiter issues. I do suggest flash tune only via MHD/BQ Tuning. I've had very good results for over two years now with zero issues.

The drag strip can be tricky. I run high 11's and it traps at 122+ on street tires with a 60 ft of 2.0 plus so there's plenty of room for improvement with DR's and better launching technique. I think you would really enjoy the car.

[Unknown_Car]

Originally Posted by LMB335IS

Buy it. I'm in the 500whp/550wtq neighborhood with no limiter issues. I do suggest flash tune only via MHD/BQ Tuning. I've had very good results for over two years now with zero issues.

The drag strip can be tricky. I run high 11's and it traps at 122+ on street tires with a 60 ft of 2.0 plus so there's plenty of room for improvement with DR's and better launching technique. I think you would really enjoy the car.

Thats really slow quarter mile times. If you (actually in the 500whp and 550wtq territory)

[LMB335IS]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

Thats really slow quarter mile times. If you (actually in the 500whp and 550wtq territory)

I tell you what smart guy, go on drag times and find a better time for a stock turbo, full weight, street tires, and 2.15 60 ft. BTW, these times were before inlets/outlets and the car was at 460/530. It's a traction issue, not a power issue. A 60 ft of 1.7/1.8 makes it a solid 11.4-11.5 car. To make it apples to apples beyond the 60ft just subtract the 60 ft from the ET. This takes traction and launch technique out of the equation and car vs car at that point. My 9.70 stacks up pretty well in that metric. Let me know what you find. Remember, this is a DCT, no LC, can't brake boost, rolling on the throttle 335is.

[mweisdorfer]

Originally Posted by Grip Grip

Apparently the 2011 335is I'm looking at has the N54 engine, and uses the dual clutch 7 speed transmission. Is there any reason to steer clear of this car? Will it require the Alpina tune to defeat the torque limiter in 5th, or is it a no issue? The main reason I plan on dumping my '07 is the torque limiter issue in 5th. I know I could upgrade the VB and TCM, but I'd rather move on.


Thanks for the input.

Nothing wrong with a 2011 335is. The double clutch trans is a good transmission. It's used in the m3's too.

Buddy of mine has a 2012 335is and loves it. He has about 50k on his and there's been no issues thus far.

N54 is an N54 to be honest.

The 7 speed double clutch trans is fun to play with because it has launch control.

It doesn't get as good as gas mileage as the 6 speed though, but I gather you probably don't care, if your gonna mod the car.

[Kid Eh]

I've had mine for 3 years now and it still puts a smile on my face every day. You won't be disappointed.

[Miller335]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

Thats really slow quarter mile times. If you (actually in the 500whp and 550wtq territory)

You must not be familar with what trap speeds mean.

[BSM n54iS]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

Thats really slow quarter mile times. If you (actually in the 500whp and 550wtq territory)

Were you expecting him to have a '10 second car' cuz it's modded and we all live in the fast and the furious? Lol

Originally Posted by Grip Grip

Apparently the 2011 335is I'm looking at has the N54 engine, and uses the dual clutch 7 speed transmission. Is there any reason to steer clear of this car? Will it require the Alpina tune to defeat the torque limiter in 5th, or is it a no issue? The main reason I plan on dumping my '07 is the torque limiter issue in 5th. I know I could upgrade the VB and TCM, but I'd rather move on.


Thanks for the input.

Op you won't be disappointed with the iS, I love mine. The aux radiator and oil cooler will be a plus since you plan to mod, stronger engine mounts and transmission that can handle more torque.

[Grip Grip]

Thanks for all the input. I should know by Friday if I'm going to buy it.

[BSM n54iS]

Originally Posted by Grip Grip

Thanks for all the input. I should know by Friday if I'm going to buy it.

Look for the 335I vs 335is thread.. Will tell you everything you need to know bout the car

[Grip Grip]

Sorry to be that guy, but I didn't follow through with the purchase. The auction went higher than I was willing to pay, so I had to pass. Honestly I'm looking for the biggest ROA (performance wise) I can get from an inexpensive inline 6, and I'm not convinced the DCT car's fulfill that requirement.

In all fairness to the 335is, I'm looking for more of a beater to mod and race when it suits me more than I'm in need of a pristine and classy daily driver.

Truth be told, my next bimmer should be AWD, as insane launches in the 3's are what I like that most. The only problem with that is the fact I have a set of 335i hybrid turbos on the way in the next moth that should support 600WHP. Does anyone know if I can have the supplier easily fabricate them to work with the IX? These are prototypes which are costing me a song, so I'm not passing the deal up for some proven turbo's that cost 4x as much (seriously, I'm getting them that cheap). The builder is well known in the Porsche and Audi world, but just dipping his toe in BMW waters right now.

Anyway, if they can't be made to work with the IX I'll be buying a 335i. My '07 is just too long in the tooth to spend another penny on. At 137K and the dumb tranny that won't take a flash, I'm better off upgrading.

Anyway, thanks for being patient and I appreciate constructive advice.

[Unknown_Car]

[QUOTE=Black n54is;20765547]Were you expecting him to have a '10 second car' cuz it's modded and we all live in the fast and the furious? Lol



Op you won't be disappointed with the iS, I love mine. The aux radiator and oil cooler will be a plus since you plan to mod, stronger engine mounts and transmission that can handle more

Dang man you really need some help with your head.
And yes its slow he should easy be in low 11's.

[BSM n54iS]

[QUOTE=Roma_335i;20779297]

Originally Posted by Black n54is

Were you expecting him to have a '10 second car' cuz it's modded and we all live in the fast and the furious? Lol



Op you won't be disappointed with the iS, I love mine. The aux radiator and oil cooler will be a plus since you plan to mod, stronger engine mounts and transmission that can handle more

Dang man you really need some help with your head.
And yes its slow he should easy be in low 11's.

I'm pretty sure your comment was one of the best examples of a completely unnecessarily rude ignorant thing said on this forum. And you chose to reply to me for what reason... reply to LMB335IS and have an intelligent conversation explaining to him why he's so slow, if you're capable of having one that is. How fast is your n54 btw?

[Unknown_Car]

[QUOTE=Black n54is;20779416]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

I'm pretty sure your comment was one of the best examples of a completely unnecessarily rude ignorant thing said on this forum. And you chose to reply to me for what reason... reply to LMB335IS and have an intelligent conversation explaining to him why he's so slow, if you're capable of having one that is. How fast is your n54 btw?

11.9 actually and i am about 450whp. Never had it dyno. But shoud be aroud there.

[RSL]

Originally Posted by Roma_335i

11.9 actually and i am about 450whp. Never had it dyno. But shoud be aroud there.

ET has almost nothing to do with HP or TQ. 11.9 isn't all that quick for 450whp or even 400whp in the grand scheme of things, just FYI.

[Grip Grip]

UPDATE:

I made an offer today for a nicely optioned '11 335is, but they were already processing a loan application for someone. They suspect he will have credit issues due to being an immigrant with new SSN. I'll know tomorrow around lunch if I'm buying it.

It has the most important options to me, which are comfort access, I-drive with reverse camera, and heated seats (for my wife).




Here's the options:

Vehicle upgrades
Rear view camera

Order option
No. Description
1CA SELECTION COP RELEVANT VEHICLES
2TC SPORTS TRANSMISSION WITH DOUBLE CLU
2VB TYRE PRESSURE INDICATOR
302 ALARM SYSTEM
319 INTEGRATED UNIVERSAL REMOTE CONTROL
322 COMFORT ACCESS SYSTEM
4NA INTERIOR MIRROR WITH DIG. COMPASS
403 GLAS ROOF, ELECTRIC
415 SUNBLIND FOR REAR WINDOW
430 INT/EXT RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-DAZZLE
431 INTERIOR RR VW MIRROR W AUT ANTI-D
488 LUMBAR SUPPORT DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
494 SEAT HEATING F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
534 AUTOMATIC AIR CONDITIONING
544 CRUISE CONTROL WITH BRAKING FUNCTION
563 LIGHTS PACKAGE
570 STRONGER ELECTRICITY SUPPLY
6AA BMW TELESERVICES
6AB CONTROL TELESERVICES
6FL USB-/AUDIO INTERFACE
6UH TRAFFIC INFORMATION
6VC CONTROL COMBOX
609 NAVIGATION SYSTEM PROFESSIONAL
615 EXTENDED BMW ONLINE INFORMATION
620 VOICE INPUT SYSTEM
639 COMPLETE PREP. CELLULAR PHONE USA/CDN
655 SATELLITE RADIO
688 HARMAN/KARDON SURROUND SOUND SYSTEM
697 AREA-CODE 1
7XA M LEATH.STEERING WHEEL W.PADDLES/MULTI
704 M SPORT SUSPENSION
8SC COUNTRY SPEC. RELEASE OF TELESERVICE
8SP COP CONTROL
8S4 DECODING VARIABLE LIGHT DISTRIBUTIO
8TL DAYTIME LIGHTS FRONT AND REAR AKTIV
8TN DAYTIME DRIVING LIGHTS SELECTABLE B
925 SHIPPING PROTECTION PACKAGE
Series options
No. Description
4WA INT. TRIM.FIN. ALU GLAC.SILVER DARK
459 SEAT ADJUSTM., ELECTR. W. MEMORY
481 SPORT SEATS F DRIVER/FRONT PASSENGER
5AK LED-LIGHT ELEMENTS
5DS LUGGAGE-COMPARTMENT EMERG. RELEASE
521 RAIN SENSOR
522 XENON LIGHT
524 ADAPTIVE HEADLIGHTS
645 RADIO CONTROL US
715 M AERODYNAMICS PACKAGE
760 INDIVIDUAL HIGH-GLOSS SATIN CHROME
775 INDIVIDUAL ROOF-LINING ANTHRACITE
823 HOT CLIMATE VERSION
840 HIGH SPEED SYNCHRONISATION
845 ACOUSTIC BELT WARNING
850 ADD FUEL TANK FILLING FOR EXPORT
853 LANGUAGE VERSION ENGLISH
876 RADIO FREQUENCY 315 MHZ
992 NUMBER PLATE ATTACHEMENT MANAGEMENT