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      08-19-2016, 06:18 PM   #1
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MMP Engineering Stage 3 turbos

My plans have changed.
Unfortunately I will not be installing the turbos.

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      08-19-2016, 09:02 PM   #2
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Here's my back story.
I bought my first N54 about 4 years ago. 535XI that I got in the low 12's in no time. After the 535XI came a E90 335XI that I was running 11.9's with using most of the mods I transferred from the 535. After switching sides to a 2012 Supercharged Mustang that I hated from day one, I went back to the N54 world and got my current 08 335XI E92.
Car is FBO, Fuel-It stage 1 (for now) with upgraded fuel line, running E70, water meth kit w/CM10 nozzle new HPFP, coils and injectors. The end of last year I was running 11.9's running the OTS E40. Over the winter I got an used set of VTT Stage 1 turbos with billet wheels from another member, RB inlets and BQ custom tune.
Last weekend got to go back to the track and ran a best of 7.67@95. It was a .2 and 3 MPH improvement over my 1/8 mile time from my 11.9 runs. Turbos hold boost all the way to red line but they were maxed out and I wanted more.
Contacted VTT to find out why they were maxed out already and they mentioned that the Stage 1's aren't going to make (much) more power than OEM's, but they will last longer. If I upgrade to the new GC Lite kit, they were going to give me $500 credit for the S1 turbos. Unfortunately I would have gotten a better deal getting my turbos from Mike@N54Tuning but there was no definite delivery date for the VTT turbos, and you know VTT's track record when it comes to delivering on time.
Next in line was the JPWorkz ST kit and MMP Stage 3 turbos. Both kits have their own flaws, but in the end after talking to Maurucio @ MMP and Jerry @ JP I decided to go with MMP Stage 3 mainly due to Mauricio's great customer service and his willingness to put it all out when there's an issue and his fix action. Also he doesn't sale turbos that he doesn't have ready to ship.
Placed my order yesterday late afternoon and got a shipping tracking number today. I will post pictures once they arrive next week and should have them installed by the end of the month. Once that's done it's time to take it back to the track and get some times and logs.
I wish I could provide some actual dyno numbers, but there's no local AWD dyno available so track and Virtual Dyno will have to do.
Glad I could help out! When other turbo vendors drop the ball, I'm glad I can step in. Looking forward to hearing more about your track results
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Some pics of the turbos
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Also an install pic from a customer in Germany that was sent to me yesterday
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      08-19-2016, 11:01 PM   #5
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As promised the turbos were waiting for me when I got off work yesterday. Here are some pictures of the ceramic coated MMP stage 3 turbos, inlets and outlets.









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      08-24-2016, 07:37 PM   #7
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Also an install pic from a customer in Germany that was sent to me yesterday
Do you think there is any value or reason to wrap the silicone pipe? It's small money to do it, just curious. I could only see it for abrasion reasons but it does it run super super close to the turbo manifold it looks like. Even then I would think gold reflective tape might do it...just curious as I will be installing next week. I mean I could do both but I feel like it would be overkill...again small money...

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      08-24-2016, 11:29 PM   #9
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Do you think there is any value or reason to wrap the silicone pipe? It's small money to do it, just curious. I could only see it for abrasion reasons but it does it run super super close to the turbo manifold it looks like. Even then I would think gold reflective tape might do it...just curious as I will be installing next week. I mean I could do both but I feel like it would be overkill...again small money...
I wrapped mine in heatshield tape before I installed it because those pipes go through the hottest part of the engine bay. It can't hurt any
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Also an install pic from a customer in Germany that was sent to me yesterday
Do you think there is any value or reason to wrap the silicone pipe? It's small money to do it, just curious. I could only see it for abrasion reasons but it does it run super super close to the turbo manifold it looks like. Even then I would think gold reflective tape might do it...just curious as I will be installing next week. I mean I could do both but I feel like it would be overkill...again small money...
Sure it helps but to be honest no matter what you wrap it in, if it touches it will conduct heat and melt the pipes no matter what, #1 rule is it can't touch. Good news is you get ALOT more gap with my turbos than OEM turbo because you don't need the CNC adapters. The front bend you can get about 3/4" gap or more and the middle bend 1" or more gap. That is way more than enough and won't have a problem. German guy just wanted to do it so I told him wouldn't hurt anything.
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Here is the picture of the gap from the German guy
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What are these rated at? 800hp?
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What are these rated at? 800hp?
700whp
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700whp
Ok. So at a goal of 600 thesewont be maxed out. What about psi? Whats the max
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700whp
Ok. So at a goal of 600 thesewont be maxed out. What about psi? Whats the max
Makes 35psi at only 50% WGDC. I don't know what the max psi is as. Have only ran them at 35psi max lol, would go past my 3.5 bar tmap
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Makes 35psi at only 50% WGDC. I don't know what the max psi is as. Have only ran them at 35psi max lol, would go past my 3.5 bar tmap
Hmmm. Im really torn between these and single kits...
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