What Mods can you do on a f30 without voiding warranty

Jaghave · 08-13-2016, 07:18 PM

???

mbanks21 · 08-13-2016, 07:21 PM

All of them

Labeef · 08-13-2016, 07:22 PM

No mod will void the warranty so long as it isn't the root cause of the problem/damage.

spuntyb · 08-13-2016, 08:37 PM

Nothing voids your warranty. All that can happen is a shop can deny honoring it because they think a particular mod has caused a problem for which you've brought the car in.

roll_the_dice · 08-13-2016, 09:59 PM

What they said. It is called the Magnuson-Moss Warranty act. It basically states, that to void the warranty, the mod has to be the direct result of the defect. I am not sure how hard it would be to prove or disprove, but that is what most people cite when this question comes up...

For example, if you changed your exhaust and then had brake failure, BMW could not void your warranty for the brakes, because of the exhaust modification. Extreme case, but easy to see.

Jaghave · 08-13-2016, 10:08 PM

Thanks for the information.
So I have to worry more about the emission laws than anything else.

bariaga1 · 08-13-2016, 11:16 PM

To be honest...once you start messing with your car...bolt-ons, etc I would prepare for the worst as far as warranty goes.

Remember just remove your mods before taking it in or find a mod "friendlier" dealer!

rambi · 08-14-2016, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by spuntyb

Nothing voids your warranty. All that can happen is a shop can deny honoring it because they think a particular mod has caused a problem for which you've brought the car in.

would my single exhaust car turned into quads be a problem??

spuntyb · 08-14-2016, 06:17 AM

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Originally Posted by rambi

Quote:

Originally Posted by spuntyb

Nothing voids your warranty. All that can happen is a shop can deny honoring it because they think a particular mod has caused a problem for which you've brought the car in.

would my single exhaust car turned into quads be a problem??

No

XKxRome0ox · 08-16-2016, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by roll_the_dice

It basically states, that to void the warranty, the mod has to be the direct result of the defect.

you misstated

it should be either
1. the mod is the direct cause of the defect
or
2. the defect is the direct result of the mod

but most people probably didn't even catch that

roll_the_dice · 08-16-2016, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

you misstated

it should be either
1. the mod is the direct cause of the defect
or
2. the defect is the direct result of the mod

but most people probably didn't even catch that

Oops good call! Thanks for correcting...it sounded right when I said it to myself!

goj · 08-16-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

Quote:

Originally Posted by roll_the_dice

It basically states, that to void the warranty, the mod has to be the direct result of the defect.

you misstated

it should be either
1. the mod is the direct cause of the defect
or
2. the defect is the direct result of the mod

but most people probably didn't even catch that

Gotta love legal wording. Listing it both way to make sure no loophole can be exposed lol

XKxRome0ox · 08-16-2016, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by goj

Gotta love legal wording. Listing it both way to make sure no loophole can be exposed lol

lol

i play a lawyer on the forum and in real life

goj · 08-16-2016, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by XKxRome0ox

Quote:

Originally Posted by goj

Gotta love legal wording. Listing it both way to make sure no loophole can be exposed lol

lol

i play a lawyer on the forum and in real life

I knew I couldn't trust you! Haha just kidding

rjc32000 · 08-17-2016, 11:48 AM

I'd be cautious about trying to conceal your mods from a dealer when seeking warranty service as many jurisdictions would consider that fraud/theft of services/theft by deception. Much better idea is to find a friendly dealer!

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Originally Posted by bariaga1

Remember just remove your mods before taking it in or find a mod "friendlier" dealer!

mike@x-ph.com · 08-17-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaghave

???

As mentioned above, mods will not void the warranty unless dealer says that the mod was the cause for the failure.
Even in that case, he cant void you whole warranty, he can just deny doing the job for free.

Safe mods are piggybacks (just remove it before visit)
I have never heard of anyone having any problems with charge pipe, intercooler and exhaust

Also intake, as long as you do are not getting a CEL dealer will probably not care'

zinner · 08-17-2016, 07:12 PM

It comes down to risk tolerance. If you want to maintain 100% warranty with no question stick to the M performance parts.

If you trust Dinan then they are #2 pick since they extend the warranty.

3rd would be the JB4 route. There is no warrenty and they are for "race cars" only which I take to mean, you have enough cash to fix any issue that arise.

mike@x-ph.com · 08-18-2016, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by zinner

It comes down to risk tolerance. If you want to maintain 100% warranty with no question stick to the M performance parts.

If you trust Dinan then they are #2 pick since they extend the warranty.

3rd would be the JB4 route. There is no warrenty and they are for "race cars" only which I take to mean, you have enough cash to fix any issue that arise.

Dinan do not extend the warranty, they offer their own in case BMW refuses to do the work.

As for the race car comment, you are taking it wrong. Just because M performance parts and Dinan are more expensive, does not mean they are safer in any way than a JB4. JB4 is the most proven tune to be safe and reliable and by far the most popular.

madmortar · 08-30-2016, 06:32 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Dinan do not extend the warranty, they offer their own in case BMW refuses to do the work.

As for the race car comment, you are taking it wrong. Just because M performance parts and Dinan are more expensive, does not mean they are safer in any way than a JB4. JB4 is the most proven tune to be safe and reliable and by far the most popular.

Just curious, how was this proven?

mike@x-ph.com · 08-30-2016, 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by madmortar

Just curious, how was this proven?

Thousands of users?

Carbon.F30 · 08-30-2016, 06:53 PM

Most will not void your warranty, provided two things:

A) It is an original BMW part, some dealers will require proof purchase and/or proof of installation from a dealer.

B) As many have mentioned, the mod is not the root cause of the problem for which the vehicle was brought in.

So, for example if you were to purchase a performance exhaust from BMW, or you have proof of purchase for it, it generally would not affect your warranty since it is an original BMW part. However aftermarket parts may have an effect on your warranty. In this case, they most likely won't void the entire warranty though.

If you're worried about warranty, call your dealer to make sure before you do any mods. Or just remove them before going in for service!

EvenKeel · 08-30-2016, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Quote:

Originally Posted by madmortar

Just curious, how was this proven?

Thousands of users?

As a vendor, your statement provides a ton of credibility.

I love how people quote Magnus this and Magnus that. Bottom line is if the dealer tells you to 'eff off because he won't fix your car because it's modded what are you going to do?.....tell him to prove it?

He doesn't have to prove dick; all he tells you to do is go f@ck off. If he wants to be vindictive because you're being a prick, he'll note it on the system so it's picked up by other dealers as well.

As someone put it aptly above -- it all boils down to your risk tolerance.

Unless you're willing to hire a lawyer to prove your position you could potentially be SOL.

End of story.

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Carbon.F30 Private First Class 71 Rep 178 Posts Drives: 2014 BMW 335xi (M-Sport) Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Toronto iTrader: (0)	Most will not void your warranty, provided two things: A) It is an original BMW part, some dealers will require proof purchase and/or proof of installation from a dealer. B) As many have mentioned, the mod is not the root cause of the problem for which the vehicle was brought in. So, for example if you were to purchase a performance exhaust from BMW, or you have proof of purchase for it, it generally would not affect your warranty since it is an original BMW part. However aftermarket parts may have an effect on your warranty. In this case, they most likely won't void the entire warranty though. If you're worried about warranty, call your dealer to make sure before you do any mods. Or just remove them before going in for service! Last edited by Carbon.F30; 08-30-2016 at 07:00 PM..
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