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      04-10-2016, 01:24 AM   #1
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3.5 bar tmap sensor vs 4 bar?

Both the 3.5 and the 4bar map sensors are the same price. Is there any benefits from one or the other? Which one should I buy? I'll never boost over 30psi and I know the 3.5 bar is good to 36psi.
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      04-10-2016, 07:03 AM   #2
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Go 3.5bar then. Theoretically more accurate.
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      04-10-2016, 07:26 AM   #3
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I got the 4 bar as it was half the price of the 3.5.
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I was going to be asking this same question once my turbos shipped lol
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What's the stock bar Tmap sensor?
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What's the stock bar Tmap sensor?
I believe the stock tmap sensor is a 2.5 bar so it's good to about 21psi.
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3000GT MR What say you? I read somewhere the N20 3.5 sensors that people were using were having issues.
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OEM 3.5. $78.00 shipped on Ebay.
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I bought the bms 4 bar map sensor and have been useing it with no issue for the past few months now.
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OEM 3.5. $78.00 shipped on Ebay.
This is what I did, purchased a used one from ebay.
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I believe the stock tmap sensor is a 2.5 bar so it's good to about 21psi.
The issue is when you get close to its max. Terry recommends if you get within 2-3 psi of the max to upgrade. So anything about 19psi basically.

4 bar is not that expensive I have one installed.
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This is what I did, purchased a used one from ebay.
Cory S & pits200 What all is needed beside the 3.5 TMAP? A new o ring? Extended bolts? A harness?
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Haven't installed yet but I know you need the bms 3.5 adapter.
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Cory S & pits200 What all is needed beside the 3.5 TMAP? A new o ring? Extended bolts? A harness?
Not a thing. New sensor comes O-ring, and you can re-use the existing screws. I modified the harness and inside the connector with a Dremel.
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Not a thing. New sensor comes O-ring, and you can re-use the existing screws. I modified the harness and inside the connector with a Dremel.
Well shit, I can't find any info except here. Thanks. I will get the 3.5bar instead of the 4 bar. I keep hearing the 4bar may or may not have bolt issues depending on chargepipe you have.
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Are the 3.5 and 4 bar both good for 40psi?
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Are the 3.5 and 4 bar both good for 40psi?
1 bar = 14.7 psi. Take off 1 bar for atmospheric pressure and you can do the math
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Are the 3.5 and 4 bar both good for 40psi?
No. Only the 4 bar is good for 40psi. But I don't know of ANYONE running 40psi on the N54
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1 bar = 14.7 psi. Take off 1 bar for atmospheric pressure and you can do the math
Gotcha.
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Well shit, I can't find any info except here. Thanks. I will get the 3.5bar instead of the 4 bar. I keep hearing the 4bar may or may not have bolt issues depending on chargepipe you have.
The 4 bar from BMS is cheaper than the 3.5 and comes with 2 o rings depending on your chargepipe. I have the cpe so the black o ring fit fine. Comes with the harness you need. But get whatever one you want.
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The 4 bar from BMS is cheaper than the 3.5 and comes with 2 o rings depending on your chargepipe. I have the cpe so the black o ring fit fine. Comes with the harness you need. But get whatever one you want.
Thanks for the info Torgus
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