How many of you will remove your tune (JB2, Procede, AA, etc) due to all the recent..

Siciliano611 · 03-08-2008, 10:15 AM

Issues? All these wastegate issues popping up has to worry a lot of you in here...What are your plans in terms of removing the tune and returning to stock?

AJayE92 · 03-08-2008, 10:20 AM

I Won't... My Cars been running perfectly with the AA Xede and i dont plan on going back to stock, i might purches the Helix attache and try it out and go back to AA Xede

Siciliano611 · 03-08-2008, 10:23 AM

so no worries about the wastegate ticking or anything like that huh?

David 12 · 03-08-2008, 10:35 AM

You have to remember people without mods are also experiencing this problem. I think it is similar to the fuel pump issue as far as that is concerned.

At the same time, you could make the argument that it is a fairly new vehicle and we don't know how it will hold up long term, stock or otherwise.

For me, I can't see changing anything at this point.

Siciliano611 · 03-08-2008, 10:36 AM

David what tune are you running?

AJayE92 · 03-08-2008, 10:36 AM

not as of now,

especially since my car has been running better than expected with this tune for 3 months now.

we'll see in the near future if i have a change of heart

e.n335 · 03-08-2008, 10:37 AM

Many people have their 335i tuned. I am sure some of them made ~ 40k miles already. I personal made the half distance tuned. The wastegate issue might or might not be related to ECU tuning. It can also be an issue with oil, driving behavior when the engine is cold, ...

I don't remove my tune but I don't use a high horsepower / psi tuning.

Siciliano611 · 03-08-2008, 10:38 AM

eugene you are using JB2H with R switch sometimes...correct? So thats either 12psi or 15psi.....

NYCGarbagePrince · 03-08-2008, 10:39 AM

There really is no reason... These things happen. You should have had your car during the big HPFP problems. People were having their cars towed to the dealership. You won't have to tow your car to the dealership for wastegate problems. That was serious, this will be similar and will get sorted out. Cars in the first and second year of production need to have the kinks worked out. In comparison to most this car is doing pretty well. My 03' 350z had more problems than I can even remember.

Nyulak · 03-08-2008, 10:41 AM

~28k miles with my PROcede and no evidence of any impending doom. It stays in my car all the time, even for service visits, without any issues.

David 12 · 03-08-2008, 10:41 AM

I am running 1.47

Siciliano611 · 03-08-2008, 10:42 AM

does ProCede V2 use a solenoid bypass like V1.47 did?

David 12 · 03-08-2008, 10:44 AM

No, V2 reverts the vacuum hoses back to stock.

e.n335 · 03-08-2008, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by sicilianoNJ

eugene you are using JB2H with R switch sometimes...correct? So thats either 12psi or 15psi.....

I don't have the "R-swich", just the JB2H. I will use the AA Active Processor soon and I am very curious about the results. I keep the JB2H.

Fraggy · 03-08-2008, 10:49 AM

I dunno what to do. My JB2 is on the way, but I may hold off on installing it. Im only minimally worried as I dont track the car, street race, etc. I drive pretty normal, but wouldnt mind the extra power every now and then for kicks.

sambonator · 03-08-2008, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Fraggy

I dunno what to do. My JB2 is on the way, but I may hold off on installing it. Im only minimally worried as I dont track the car, street race, etc. I drive pretty normal, but wouldnt mind the extra power every now and then for kicks.

I wouldn't worry about it. Just remove all mods before dealer visits.

Siciliano611 · 03-08-2008, 11:06 AM

sambonator, you arent too concerned with all these issues huh? You have been running JB2 for quite sometime...the same mod that AU335 was running for months. I love the JB2 but am quite worried that the solenoid bypass could be the cause of all this

cn555ic · 03-08-2008, 11:09 AM

Procede doesn't bypass the solenoids, thats the only thing good about the tune other that the other gazillion things wrong with it!

5soko · 03-08-2008, 11:19 AM

i wont be removing my SSTT i got about 15k miles on it and about 20k total on my car. everything is working awesome.

i think the SSTT would and is very warranty safe since it plugs in the TMAP sensor, no wires and no ecu tampering and doesnt throw codes and it works with the Stock boost levels that under extreme conditions the car itself boosts itself to the same point. uit pretty much makes the DME do all the work.
once removed it is pretty much impossible to be traced that there was something there.

cn555ic · 03-08-2008, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by 5sokol335icoupe

i wont be removing my SSTT i got about 15k miles on it and about 20k total on my car. everything is working awesome.

i think the SSTT would and is very warranty safe since it plugs in the TMAP sensor, no wires and no ecu tampering and doesnt throw codes and it works with the Stock boost levels that under extreme conditions the car itself boosts itself to the same point. uit pretty much makes the DME do all the work.
once removed it is pretty much impossible to be traced that there was something there.

SSTT also doesn't bypass the solenoids either!!

5soko · 03-08-2008, 11:25 AM

yea your right^^

but i still dont think it is related to TUNES. one would think it would very well be directly related esp when speaking of the wastegate but i think one me,ber has already confirmed that he has a 100% stock car and it failed aswell.

i guess were gonna have sit back and watch until we can get a better explanation.

cn555ic · 03-08-2008, 11:30 AM

I really want to know if bypassing solenoids have any correlation to wastegate problems, I realized that one member was stock and had this issue and it may be an isolated issue with this OP.....Right now I am bit concerned with cars that are tuned having these issues more frequently now, because there are many people now saying they have this issue and have their cars tuned!!!

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Siciliano611 Major 397 Rep 1,303 Posts Drives: SMB M6GC Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATL iTrader: (3)	so no worries about the wastegate ticking or anything like that huh?
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David 12 Major 127 Rep 1,048 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X5 50i BSM, M Sport Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Omaha iTrader: (0)	You have to remember people without mods are also experiencing this problem. I think it is similar to the fuel pump issue as far as that is concerned. At the same time, you could make the argument that it is a fairly new vehicle and we don't know how it will hold up long term, stock or otherwise. For me, I can't see changing anything at this point.
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Siciliano611 Major 397 Rep 1,303 Posts Drives: SMB M6GC Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATL iTrader: (3)	David what tune are you running?
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e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Many people have their 335i tuned. I am sure some of them made ~ 40k miles already. I personal made the half distance tuned. The wastegate issue might or might not be related to ECU tuning. It can also be an issue with oil, driving behavior when the engine is cold, ... I don't remove my tune but I don't use a high horsepower / psi tuning.
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Siciliano611 Major 397 Rep 1,303 Posts Drives: SMB M6GC Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATL iTrader: (3)	eugene you are using JB2H with R switch sometimes...correct? So thats either 12psi or 15psi.....
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NYCGarbagePrince Major 247 Rep 1,435 Posts Drives: X6 50i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: NYC iTrader: (0)	There really is no reason... These things happen. You should have had your car during the big HPFP problems. People were having their cars towed to the dealership. You won't have to tow your car to the dealership for wastegate problems. That was serious, this will be similar and will get sorted out. Cars in the first and second year of production need to have the kinks worked out. In comparison to most this car is doing pretty well. My 03' 350z had more problems than I can even remember.
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Nyulak Captain 29 Rep 957 Posts Drives: 2022 X3 M40i Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: SheffVill, OH iTrader: (4) Garage List 2009 BMW 535xi [10.00]	~28k miles with my PROcede and no evidence of any impending doom. It stays in my car all the time, even for service visits, without any issues.
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Siciliano611 Major 397 Rep 1,303 Posts Drives: SMB M6GC Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATL iTrader: (3)	does ProCede V2 use a solenoid bypass like V1.47 did?
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David 12 Major 127 Rep 1,048 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW X5 50i BSM, M Sport Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Omaha iTrader: (0)	No, V2 reverts the vacuum hoses back to stock.
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Fraggy Brigadier General 193 Rep 3,469 Posts Drives: 2016 M3 Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: San Diego iTrader: (11)	I dunno what to do. My JB2 is on the way, but I may hold off on installing it. Im only minimally worried as I dont track the car, street race, etc. I drive pretty normal, but wouldnt mind the extra power every now and then for kicks. __________________ 2016 Alpine White M3 (gone) 2019 Alfa Romeo Guilia (Totaled) 2020 Car-less 😁 (no more) 2020 M340
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Siciliano611 Major 397 Rep 1,303 Posts Drives: SMB M6GC Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: ATL iTrader: (3)	sambonator, you arent too concerned with all these issues huh? You have been running JB2 for quite sometime...the same mod that AU335 was running for months. I love the JB2 but am quite worried that the solenoid bypass could be the cause of all this
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	Procede doesn't bypass the solenoids, thats the only thing good about the tune other that the other gazillion things wrong with it!
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5soko Brigadier General 333 Rep 4,632 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	i wont be removing my SSTT i got about 15k miles on it and about 20k total on my car. everything is working awesome. i think the SSTT would and is very warranty safe since it plugs in the TMAP sensor, no wires and no ecu tampering and doesnt throw codes and it works with the Stock boost levels that under extreme conditions the car itself boosts itself to the same point. uit pretty much makes the DME do all the work. once removed it is pretty much impossible to be traced that there was something there.
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5soko Brigadier General 333 Rep 4,632 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Brooklyn, NY iTrader: (4)	yea your right^^ but i still dont think it is related to TUNES. one would think it would very well be directly related esp when speaking of the wastegate but i think one me,ber has already confirmed that he has a 100% stock car and it failed aswell. i guess were gonna have sit back and watch until we can get a better explanation.
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cn555ic 441 Rep 18,331 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: US iTrader: (6)	I really want to know if bypassing solenoids have any correlation to wastegate problems, I realized that one member was stock and had this issue and it may be an isolated issue with this OP.....Right now I am bit concerned with cars that are tuned having these issues more frequently now, because there are many people now saying they have this issue and have their cars tuned!!!
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