Harsh riding

Twenty2Three · 03-17-2016, 03:49 PM

I do love my 328i, it has everything I could wish for but...
The ride is too harsh for me and I am now fed up with it.
Even on 400M 18 inch wheels
I thought I would get used to it but sadly its now getting on my thruppenies!
The awful roads do not help either
Any "sensible" suggestions ?

Tengocity · 03-17-2016, 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Three28iman

I do love my 328i, it has everything I could wish for but...
The ride is too harsh for me and I am now fed up with it.
Even on 400M 18 inch wheels
I thought I would get used to it but sadly its now getting on my thruppenies!
The awful roads do not help either
Any "sensible" suggestions ?

Non run flat tyres

Twenty2Three · 03-17-2016, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Non run flat tyres

I have read with interest the posts about the difference they can make... but reluctant to shell out £500 for a set just to find they make little difference.
Car has 61K on the clock and still under AU warranty should the suspension still be good?

Watsey · 03-17-2016, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Three28iman

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Originally Posted by Tengocity

Non run flat tyres

I have read with interest the posts about the difference they can make... but reluctant to shell out £500 for a set just to find they make little difference.
Car has 61K on the clock and still under AU warranty should the suspension still be good?

Firmness comes from the suspension. Harshness comes from the tyres, particularly in terms of sidewall compliance (or lack of).

Changing to non-runflats makes a big difference.

AlfaM · 03-17-2016, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Three28iman

I do love my 328i, it has everything I could wish for but...
The ride is too harsh for me and I am now fed up with it.
Even on 400M 18 inch wheels
I thought I would get used to it but sadly its now getting on my thruppenies!
The awful roads do not help either
Any "sensible" suggestions ?

I'm 3 months into my 3 series ownership and I'm wishing I'd bought a 5 series.

ajfoggy · 03-17-2016, 04:45 PM

long shot but the transport blocks weren't left in were they? if a new car?

Andrewthefirst · 03-17-2016, 05:01 PM

Not the thread I was expecting.

Op, your title has got me in here under false pretences, I'm not happy.

KS_340i · 03-17-2016, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Three28iman

I do love my 328i, it has everything I could wish for but...
The ride is too harsh for me and I am now fed up with it.
Even on 400M 18 inch wheels
I thought I would get used to it but sadly its now getting on my thruppenies!
The awful roads do not help either
Any "sensible" suggestions ?

Coming from our E61 535d, we find the ride on 19" run flats on the F31 very comfortable...even in sport mode (we do have adaptive suspension). So your post is surprising.

Lorcan · 03-17-2016, 05:22 PM

+1 for ditching the runflats. Non-runflat 19s are more comfortable than runflat 18s.

Twenty2Three · 03-17-2016, 05:24 PM

Must admit I was ok at first
But I cringe when I see a bump/rut/manhole cover approaching (lots around)
Car is 3 1/2 years old now
Maybe its the novelty wearing off?

teaston · 03-17-2016, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Three28iman

Must admit I was ok at first
But I cringe when I see a bump/rut/manhole cover approaching (lots around)
Car is 3 1/2 years old now
Maybe its the novelty wearing off?

It is definitely almost all because of the run flats, particularly if they are the Bridgestone S001 concrete run flats!

If you want comfort and refinement then go for a non run flat touring tyre like the Pirelli Cinturato, I guarantee it will transform the car! Not just ride comfort but road noise and steering feel will all be hugely improved.

ajfoggy · 03-17-2016, 05:30 PM

Can you spec a new car with non-runflats? I guess not you just get what you are given.

Twenty2Three · 03-17-2016, 05:35 PM

Continentals fitted on mine...
I used to be a tyre designer back in the 90s and how we laughed at the concept of a solid sidewall!

teaston · 03-17-2016, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

Can you spec a new car with non-runflats? I guess not you just get what you are given.

No unless it's an M or M light. But if you buy the car from a decent salesman like Tony Lewis he can arrange for your supplied tyres to be fitted before you collect the car!

ajfoggy · 03-17-2016, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

No unless it's an M or M light. But if you buy the car from a decent salesman like Tony Lewis he can arrange for your supplied tyres to be fitted before you collect the car!

I might just do that

teaston · 03-17-2016, 05:40 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

I might just do that

I did, and because the run flats were so new looking I sold them for £400, so I paid £200 to have MPSS's all round, bargain IMO!

ajfoggy · 03-17-2016, 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

I did, and because the run flats were so new looking I sold them for £400, so I paid £200 to have MPSS's all round, bargain IMO!

Did you just buy them online and get them delivered to the dealers?

How did you sell them other eBay? Or on here?

I need to choose a colour first before getting into things like this

teaston · 03-17-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ajfoggy

Did you just buy them online and get them delivered to the dealers?

How did you sell them other eBay? Or on here?

I need to choose a colour first before getting into things like this

Yep, Oponeo delivered them to Cooper Croydon. Run flats fitted two in boot and two on back seat, sold on classified section here in 2 days, & they were the infamous S001's!

JNW1 · 03-18-2016, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by KS_340i

Coming from our E61 535d, we find the ride on 19" run flats on the F31 very comfortable...even in sport mode (we do have adaptive suspension). So your post is surprising.

My F31 is on 18" wheels and on the dreaded Bridgestone run-flats the ride was ok even in Sport mode (my car has adaptive suspension); therefore, I also find the OP's criticism of the ride slightly surprising. Nevertheless, I'd still echo the sentiments of those who say conventional tyres are better; the road noise from the Bridgestones was awful and AS2's have improved the refinement no end! The steering and ride are also better although I honestly didn't find the latter to be unacceptable on run-flats....

subsy · 03-18-2016, 03:21 AM

I'm still in two minds about whether to change my run flats for mpss from new.

With a new baby on the way, the peace of mind of having run flats is - no pun intended - quite comforting.

On the other I despise road noise.

Alscoob · 03-18-2016, 03:53 AM

He says with hand firmly on a block of wood...

In all the years I've been driving I have only ever had 2 punctures resulting in the tyre going down while driving. More common to find nails/ screws in the tyre causing slow punctures & finding it flat in the morning, where you can then inflate it & get to a garage.

On that basis I'm happy to have non run flats with the slime sealant kit in the boot, because I get a better quality of ride / feel to the car and if I do get a puncture & slime it - it can be repaired. If you drive on a punctured run flat the generally the tyres buggered & you have to buy a new one... or two to match up on the axle.

So not only is the ride quality of RFT's pants, they cost you more money

I'm still on my winters (to be changed as soon as I get a chance) these are 19" non run flat, took a 335i out for a test drive Wednesday it had 19" RFT Bridgestones and you would think it had 60psi in each. It bounced and banged over every little ripple in the road, couldn't believe that mine used to be like that, it was awful by comparason.

PiersR · 03-18-2016, 06:40 AM

I've recently bought an F30 Sport on the 18" 397 wheels and Pirelli RF's, and the ride is a little on the harsh side, but not too bad. It's the road noise and tramlining that I find more annoying. Unfortunately there's quite a bit meat on all four tyres, especially the fronts, so it'll be a while until I'll be changing to non RF's. The Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrics look like a good bet, does anyone here run them?

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Lorcan The artist formerly known as AC Schnitzer UK 3609 Rep 4,518 Posts Drives: The Yellow Peril Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Norfolk UK iTrader: (0)	+1 for ditching the runflats. Non-runflat 19s are more comfortable than runflat 18s.
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Twenty2Three Lieutenant 209 Rep 520 Posts Drives: BMW 328i M Sport Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Rochdale iTrader: (0)	Must admit I was ok at first But I cringe when I see a bump/rut/manhole cover approaching (lots around) Car is 3 1/2 years old now Maybe its the novelty wearing off?
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ajfoggy Brigadier General 1517 Rep 3,560 Posts Drives: C63s - S205 - Brilliant Blue Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Warrington iTrader: (0)	Can you spec a new car with non-runflats? I guess not you just get what you are given.
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Twenty2Three Lieutenant 209 Rep 520 Posts Drives: BMW 328i M Sport Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Rochdale iTrader: (0)	Continentals fitted on mine... I used to be a tyre designer back in the 90s and how we laughed at the concept of a solid sidewall!
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subsy Major 453 Rep 1,163 Posts Drives: 340i F31 Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Nr Reading, UK iTrader: (0)	I'm still in two minds about whether to change my run flats for mpss from new. With a new baby on the way, the peace of mind of having run flats is - no pun intended - quite comforting. On the other I despise road noise.
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Alscoob Brigadier General 2119 Rep 3,067 Posts Drives: G31 540i M Sport Edition Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	He says with hand firmly on a block of wood... In all the years I've been driving I have only ever had 2 punctures resulting in the tyre going down while driving. More common to find nails/ screws in the tyre causing slow punctures & finding it flat in the morning, where you can then inflate it & get to a garage. On that basis I'm happy to have non run flats with the slime sealant kit in the boot, because I get a better quality of ride / feel to the car and if I do get a puncture & slime it - it can be repaired. If you drive on a punctured run flat the generally the tyres buggered & you have to buy a new one... or two to match up on the axle. So not only is the ride quality of RFT's pants, they cost you more money I'm still on my winters (to be changed as soon as I get a chance) these are 19" non run flat, took a 335i out for a test drive Wednesday it had 19" RFT Bridgestones and you would think it had 60psi in each. It bounced and banged over every little ripple in the road, couldn't believe that mine used to be like that, it was awful by comparason. Last edited by Alscoob; 03-18-2016 at 03:58 AM..
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PiersR New Member 2 Rep 17 Posts Drives: 320d Sport Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Rugby iTrader: (0)	I've recently bought an F30 Sport on the 18" 397 wheels and Pirelli RF's, and the ride is a little on the harsh side, but not too bad. It's the road noise and tramlining that I find more annoying. Unfortunately there's quite a bit meat on all four tyres, especially the fronts, so it'll be a while until I'll be changing to non RF's. The Goodyear Eagle F1 Asymmetrics look like a good bet, does anyone here run them?
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