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      02-21-2016, 09:09 PM   #1
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After having my 328i for 1 year, things that I did not like about my car:

1. Moonroof is not standard
2. Side skirt BMW logo is plastic- had 128i it was metal and standard
3. A/C when placed on auto is not really auto, wind speed requires manual adjustment.
4. Engine sound is not as nice as the I6 from my old N52. (good is the gas mileage and extra power)
5. Side mirror on the driver side does not have large field of view (not a minimizing mirror like passenger side.
6. Lots of carbon waste from one of the tailpipe (normal per SA)
7. cheap sliding cover for the moonroof. (super light material unlike my old E82)
8. No top tint on the windshield unlike my e82
9. Does not hold resale value (car is at 51- 52 % after 1 year)
10. Halogen headlight visibility is horrible at night
11. No alarm or pre wiring for an OEM alarm
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      02-21-2016, 09:21 PM   #2
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After having my 328i for 1 year, things that I did not like about my car:

1. Moonroof is not standard
2. Side skirt BMW logo is plastic- had 128i it was metal and standard
3. A/C when placed on auto is not really auto, wind speed requires manual adjustment.
4. Engine sound is not as nice as the I6 from my old N52. (good is the gas mileage and extra power)
5. Side mirror on the driver side does not have large field of view (not a minimizing mirror like passenger side.
6. Lots of carbon waste from one of the tailpipe (normal per SA)
7. cheap sliding cover for the moonroof. (super light material unlike my old E82)
8. No top tint on the windshield unlike my e82
9. Does not hold resale value (car is at 51- 52 % after 1 year)
10. Halogen headlight visibility is horrible at night
11. No alarm or pre wiring for an OEM alarm
Sounds like you bought the wrong car. Pretty expensive error. You might want to sell it before its worthless and get something you like. If its gone down 50% in one year then you better hurry.
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      02-21-2016, 09:36 PM   #3
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After having my 328i for 1 year, things that I did not like about my car:

1. Moonroof is not standard
2. Side skirt BMW logo is plastic- had 128i it was metal and standard
3. A/C when placed on auto is not really auto, wind speed requires manual adjustment.
4. Engine sound is not as nice as the I6 from my old N52. (good is the gas mileage and extra power)
5. Side mirror on the driver side does not have large field of view (not a minimizing mirror like passenger side.
6. Lots of carbon waste from one of the tailpipe (normal per SA)
7. cheap sliding cover for the moonroof. (super light material unlike my old E82)
8. No top tint on the windshield unlike my e82
9. Does not hold resale value (car is at 51- 52 % after 1 year)
10. Halogen headlight visibility is horrible at night
11. No alarm or pre wiring for an OEM alarm
No, that's just about right.

I had a sportline 14'328i with premium package and it dropped 50% of it's resale in a year.

Dealer did a deal with me and increased it's trade in price when I traded it in for my 335i and reduced the price of the 335i by a bunch to reduce the negative equity by alot.
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      02-21-2016, 09:38 PM   #4
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Sounds like you bought the wrong car. Pretty expensive error. You might want to sell it before its worthless and get something you like. If its gone down 50% in one year then you better hurry.
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      02-21-2016, 09:40 PM   #5
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No, that's just about right.

I had a sportline 14'328i with premium package and it dropped 50% of it's resale in a year.

Dealer did a deal with me and increased it's trade in price when I traded it in for my 335i and reduced the price of the 335i by a bunch to reduce the negative equity by alot.
So, you decided to spend even more money just one year later on another BMW. That brings a certain word to mind. It starts with an s.
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      02-21-2016, 09:42 PM   #6
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Yes I think this is reflected in the residual values when you Lease a 328.

I believe it's 22% residual after three years with 10,000 miles per year.
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      02-21-2016, 09:47 PM   #7
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So, you decided to spend even more money just one year later on another BMW. That brings a certain word to mind. It starts with an s.
More like I got rid of it.

I mean, if the dealer offered to get rid of 60-65% of your negative equity, wouldn't you do it?
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Yes I think this is reflected in the residual values when you Lease a 328.

I believe it's 22% residual after three years with 10,000 miles per year.
My leased 328 has a buy back value of 41% of invoice after 4 years. 50% after a year is rediculous.

Anyway, half of his complaints are bogus.
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My leased 328 has a buy back value of 41% of invoice after 4 years. 50% after a year is rediculous.

Anyway, half of his complaints are bogus.
That's right. The one point that is so easily measurable is so far off it puts the whole post in question. No point in feeding this nonsense, but yet here we are
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Sounds like you bought the wrong car. Pretty expensive error. You might want to sell it before its worthless and get something you like. If its gone down 50% in one year then you better hurry.
That would not be a wise idea to get rid of it now since I already took the major hit. Even if i buy something else, I would actually lose even more.
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My leased 328 has a buy back value of 41% of invoice after 4 years. 50% after a year is rediculous.

Anyway, half of his complaints are bogus.
all those complaints are just my opinion so everyone is different. No one person is exactly the same. AS far as for 50% of the value in one year, you can go to kbb.com and type it in yourself for 2014. No dealer would give you more than kbb they will only give less since they have to resell it to make a profit.
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That's right. The one point that is so easily measurable is so far off it puts the whole post in question. No point in feeding this nonsense, but yet here we are
you know its entertaining thats why you are here replying
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all those complaints are just my opinion so everyone is different. No one person is exactly the same. AS far as for 50% of the value in one year, you can go to kbb.com and type it in yourself for 2014. No dealer would give you more than kbb they will only give less since they have to resell it to make a profit.
^

Dealer offered me 33,000 for my 328i.

After negociating, they increased it to 37,000 and discounted 6000$ off MSRP on the CPO 335i I was buying instead.

Chopped off 10,000 of the negative equity, I owed 5000 and they just added it on the 335i which made no difference to my monthly payments as I was paying the same for the 328i as a lease.
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After having my 328i for 1 year, things that I did not like about my car:

1. Moonroof is not standard


8. No top tint on the windshield unlike my e82
Worst things ever. I mean seriously. How is bmw in business?

Poll: is this the worst thread ever?
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Dealer offered me 33,000 for my 328i.

After negociating, they increased it to 37,000 and discounted 6000$ off MSRP on the CPO 335i I was buying instead.

Chopped off 10,000 of the negative equity, I owed 5000 and they just added it on the 335i which made no difference to my monthly payments as I was paying the same for the 328i as a lease.
is it safe to buy CPO since your unsure if the last owner had issues with the car or if the car was broken in correctly. It sounds like a good idea since your getting a power boost with the same amount of money.
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That would not be a wise idea to get rid of it now since I already took the major hit. Even if i buy something else, I would actually lose even more.
Sorry, I was having a sarcastic moment when I posted that. I was playing off your point that you car lost 1/2 its value in one year and I was jokingly extrapolating that at that rate it would be worthless by next year.

When you make statements that are clearly not true it lessens the credibility of the rest of your post. No car is only worth 1/2 after one year, certainly not BMW.

Seriously, you are upset about it enough to write 11 things that you don't like. I won't go point by point, but some of that list you knew or should have known before you bought the car. Those items are completely on you. Carbon on the tailpipe is a function of direct injection. DI improves performance and is more efficient fuel-wise. So your SA was correct. It not a BMW issue. Any car with DI. The rest of your list you will have to sort out.

Good luck!
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is it safe to buy CPO since your unsure if the last owner had issues with the car or if the car was broken in correctly. It sounds like a good idea since your getting a power boost with the same amount of money.
They provided me with service records, and carfax records, they also said the previous owner was an old person in his 50-60s. So a good chance it was broken in correctly (hopefully) but seeing how the car didn't have any problems for the first 51,000km, then it looks like it was very well taken care of.
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you know its entertaining thats why you are here replying
It was entertaining before this response, now I think we are headed to Trollville. Not fun anymore.
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      02-21-2016, 11:36 PM   #19
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After having my 328i for 1 year, things that I did not like about my car:

3. A/C when placed on auto is not really auto, wind speed requires manual adjustment.
I don't think that's correct.
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      02-22-2016, 12:17 AM   #20
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People are forgetting their [sarcasm][/sarcasm] tags too much these days.

But honestly, buying a car that doesn't have the equipment you want and then complaining that the car doesn't have those equipment, and then suggesting it means a drop in the brand's quality is like, what, double confirmation bias?
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I don't think that's correct.
A/C has an Auto function, whatever the OP thinks. I'm not sure he's understanding how 'auto' works. Guess there is a need to read the user manual and understand the intensity settings.

Fan air speed does vary, but within the intensity setting the user chooses to run.

Not sure how a comfort "enhancement" is an indicator of BMW quality falling off, no more than extra carbon in the exhaust tips of a DI engine is a quality issue.
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      02-22-2016, 07:32 AM   #22
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Umm no. I feel things are much better from the 09 e92 to my 15 f30
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