No 6MT in Gran Coupe WTF ! :(

PKL · 11-12-2015, 10:51 PM

I just found out.

I haven't played around on these forums in a while.

For about a year now I was positive my next car would be a 4GC in 6MT. I just found out they don't make it.

NOOOOOOOOO

That is all

goj · 11-12-2015, 10:54 PM

It really is too bad, but the 340i with the rev matching manual is quite wonderful

RM7 · 11-13-2015, 01:09 AM

It's not the car for a manual IMO. M3/M4, sure.

P-Bass · 11-13-2015, 06:59 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

It's not the car for a manual IMO. M3/M4, sure.

Why not? So I have to buy a M3/M4 if i want a manual? What's happening to BMW drivers? So lets's hear the chorus, the auto is so good, I drive in traffic, blah, blah, blah. Go get a Lexus...

kolosy · 11-13-2015, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by PSA955

Why not? So I have to buy a M3/M4 if i want a manual? What's happening to BMW drivers? So lets's hear the chorus, the auto is so good, I drive in traffic, blah, blah, blah. Go get a Lexus...

haha. this.

i looked at the GC for a hot second, until i realized this very issue. skip.

340 msport 6MT on the way!!

GuitarMike · 11-13-2015, 07:34 AM

Have it mine - Europe has it - go with European Delivery

....,,,,..,,.. · 11-13-2015, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by GuitarMike

Have it mine - Europe has it - go with European Delivery

Yeah we still get manuals over here.

Also total bollox needing an M car to appreciate a manual gearbox.

A decent hot hatch is great manual, never mind a six cyl BMW petrol.

Buzzo · 11-13-2015, 08:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GuitarMike

Have it mine - Europe has it - go with European Delivery

European Delivery still plays by the US spec book, unfortunately.

Jer025 · 11-13-2015, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kolosy

haha. this.

i looked at the GC for a hot second, until i realized this very issue. skip.

340 msport 6MT on the way!!

Same thing. Great looking car but I want the third peddle damn it !

tboooe · 11-13-2015, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

It's not the car for a manual IMO. M3/M4, sure.

Yeah, I guess people who want the extra space and doors are just kid toting soccer moms/dads who cant even drive a manual anyway. I mean why on earth would someone with basically a station wagon want to have the joy and excitement of driving a manual?

There is talk that the Audi RS4 Avant with a manual may be coming to the states...if so I am all over it:

RM7 · 11-13-2015, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by tboooe

Yeah, I guess people who want the extra space and doors are just kid toting soccer moms/dads who cant even drive a manual anyway. I mean why on earth would someone with basically a station wagon want to have the joy and excitement of driving a manual?

Paddle shifters.

Autos are faster, more efficient and better than manual in many categories that were once the polar opposite. I love rowing through gears and have only ever had manuals until this car and I will probably pick up something for fun that is manual, but I don't lie to myself about the progress of auto transmissions either.

tboooe · 11-13-2015, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

Paddle shifters.

Autos are faster, more efficient and better than manual in many categories that were once the polar opposite. I love rowing through gears and have only ever had manuals until this car and I will probably pick up something for fun that is manual, but I don't lie to myself about the progress of auto transmissions either.

Totally agree. I am not saying autos + paddle shifters suck. However, there is something intrinsically fun and visceral about manuals, even if it is not as efficient or slower than today's autos. I guess I am just an old guy, having grown up only driving manuals. Guys like me are a dying consumer breed unfortunately.

jd_perspective · 11-13-2015, 09:52 AM

may not be as fun but they're faster than a manual.

the_phew · 11-13-2015, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by tboooe

There is talk that the Audi RS4 Avant with a manual may be coming to the states...if so I am all over it:

I wish, but no way that happens. I think the B7 S4 avant was offered with a manual, and they sold maybe a couple hundred in the U.S.

Hell, they don't even offer a manual in the S3. Typically, the "cheapest performance trim" is the one with the highest manual take rate for almost any car (Mustang GT, Camaro 1SS, Cayman S, etc), and Audi doesn't even offer it on theirs. Which doesn't actually matter, because the Golf R is a better S3 anyway (hatch, better dash arrangement, cheaper, etc). But there is no VW equivalent for the RS4 Avant!

paul e · 11-13-2015, 10:48 AM

The lack of 3rd pedal manuals is why I have a 340i 6MT on order.

While car shopping it became quite apparent that the manual trans seeker is considered one of two things: (1) a cheapskate looking for the cheapest car available or (2) a Crazed speed demon looking for a super car. The guy who just prefers a manual is no longer taken into account. "Why no manual?" "Nobody buys them." "But you don't offer them." "See?"

It's hard to buy what isn't offered. So I'm grateful I can still get a 6MT in a normal car, even as I'm shocked you can't get one in a Z4 six or, apparently, a GC.

the_phew · 11-13-2015, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by paul e

It's hard to buy what isn't offered. So I'm grateful I can still get a 6MT in a normal car, even as I'm shocked you can't get one in a Z4 six or, apparently, a GC.

Really, the blame lies with the U.S. government. Every engine/transmission/chassis combination has to be certified, at a cost of over $1 million. If the 6MT is $1000 cheaper than the 8AT for BMW, they'd have to sell 1000+ over the life of the model to even justify certifying it.

Sure, they are a few dozen people on the forum that would surely get a 6MT 4GC, but BMW knows they will probably buy a sedan if the 4GC isn't offered with a 6MT, so they get their money either way.

I might just go with the Golf R or Focus RS next time just to spite BMW for not offering a 6MT hatch/wagon.

radm · 11-13-2015, 11:44 AM

I have twins and I'd rather have a roof box than a car without a manual. For me it is a joy to drive a car with manual. I would consider GT or even X3 if it had MT. But at the end I ordered 340ix. I will miss the room at times but then most of the time I will be alone in the car having fun.

I know that autos are faster and more fuel efficient these days but I would miss double clutching when down shifting (by the way, BMW, why cannot I disable the auto blip in sport mode, why only sport+???). Also, I dislike the way autos downshift when slowing down to a stop resulting in a slight lurch - even in manual mode.

goj · 11-13-2015, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by tboooe

Quote:

Originally Posted by JamesNoBrakes

It's not the car for a manual IMO. M3/M4, sure.

Yeah, I guess people who want the extra space and doors are just kid toting soccer moms/dads who cant even drive a manual anyway. I mean why on earth would someone with basically a station wagon want to have the joy and excitement of driving a manual?

There is talk that the Audi RS4 Avant with a manual may be coming to the states...if so I am all over it:

If they discontinued the manual in the S4 I really can't see any manual coming in a product positioned above it. The Infotainment controls set beyond the shifter would pose a nuisance for a manual. But hey I don't know, you could be right!

cmplaya · 11-13-2015, 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PSA955

Why not? So I have to buy a M3/M4 if i want a manual? What's happening to BMW drivers? So lets's hear the chorus, the auto is so good, I drive in traffic, blah, blah, blah. Go get a Lexus...

or a benz

MotorOla · 11-13-2015, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PKL

I just found out.

I haven't played around on these forums in a while.

For about a year now I was positive my next car would be a 4GC in 6MT. I just found out they don't make it.

NOOOOOOOOO

That is all

I love my 6MT, one week since delivery today

Minkia · 11-13-2015, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the_phew

Sure, they are a few dozen people on the forum that would surely get a 6MT 4GC, but BMW knows they will probably buy a sedan if the 4GC isn't offered with a 6MT, so they get their money either way.

not me. never liked the 3 and if bmw didnt offer the 2015 4gc in manual i'd probably be driving an a6 right now. hopefully they'll have a 6gc in manual in a few years time (wishful thinking).

tboooe · 11-13-2015, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by MotorOla

I love my 6MT, one week since delivery today

Quote:

Originally Posted by Minkia

not me. never liked the 3 and if bmw didnt offer the 2015 4gc in manual i'd probably be driving an a6 right now. hopefully they'll have a 6gc in manual in a few years time (wishful thinking).

VERY jealous of you both! I am fairly sure my left leg is atrophying as I type this.

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paul e Captain 420 Rep 842 Posts Drives: 340i xDrive 6MT Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: South Carolina iTrader: (0)	The lack of 3rd pedal manuals is why I have a 340i 6MT on order. While car shopping it became quite apparent that the manual trans seeker is considered one of two things: (1) a cheapskate looking for the cheapest car available or (2) a Crazed speed demon looking for a super car. The guy who just prefers a manual is no longer taken into account. "Why no manual?" "Nobody buys them." "But you don't offer them." "See?" It's hard to buy what isn't offered. So I'm grateful I can still get a 6MT in a normal car, even as I'm shocked you can't get one in a Z4 six or, apparently, a GC.
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radm Private First Class 124 Rep 105 Posts Drives: M3 6MT ordered, AR 4C Spider Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: San Francisco Bay Area iTrader: (0)	I have twins and I'd rather have a roof box than a car without a manual. For me it is a joy to drive a car with manual. I would consider GT or even X3 if it had MT. But at the end I ordered 340ix. I will miss the room at times but then most of the time I will be alone in the car having fun. I know that autos are faster and more fuel efficient these days but I would miss double clutching when down shifting (by the way, BMW, why cannot I disable the auto blip in sport mode, why only sport+???). Also, I dislike the way autos downshift when slowing down to a stop resulting in a slight lurch - even in manual mode.
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