[amit.sehrawat]

Hi,

New member Introduction: Living in Burlington MA, 27 years old, recently got married, recently moved to US from India. Used to ride motorcycle and drive Hyundai in India. Know more about motorcycles than cars. Calm driver. I know difference between inline and V6 in theory but when I open hood of my car, all is know is where to put water for windshield water tank

Need advice on:
I do not know a lot about cars and I am not a handy man for sure. I am shopping for my second car, first being 2016 Honda CRV EX.
Initially I was looking for a economy used car like honda/hyundai and then sell them in few years to buy something nice. While doing that, I moved to Acura/Infiniti and now I have been looking at this 2013 BMW 328i coupe (6 cylinder one). It still has 1 year of factory warranty and then I will be on my own.
Dealer presented me with extended warranty options with 3rd party warranty providers as well. I want to know what kind of maintenance cost I will be looking at after the factory warranty wears of.
If someone who has used similar car before can give me some kind of ballpark, It would really help in making the decision.

Information about the car:
Model Year: 2013
Mileage: 29K miles
Engine: 3.0L I6
Transmission: Automatic 6-Speed
Trim/Package: 328i xDrive AWD 2dr Coupe
Dealer price: 27K

With following options: Premium package, Navigation Package Cold weather package, Hard disc drive media storage, Satellite radio, Telescopic steering, Fog lamps, HID headlights * Memory seats *Power glass roof, *Hands free Bluetooth, Heated steering wheel *All power accessories *Premium alloy wheels *Dual climate *Push button start *Keyless entry *Keyless go, Leather seating.

I test drove the car and it felt great, but I do not have enough experience to know if something was wrong. Let me know if you need more information to advice me.
Thanks.

PS: If this is a wrong forum to ask this question, please move the thread.

[floydarogers]

Well, there's a problem with the car's description.

If the car is a 2013 BMW, the 328 designation means an inline 4-cylinder 2.0L turbo-charged engine. The 335i is still an inline-6 (turbocharged).

The last inline non-turbo engine designated by the 328i name that BMW sold in the USA/CA was in 2011 sedans and wagons, and 2012 coupes and convertibles. That was also a 3L inline 6. (It is slightly possible, I suppose, that a few 2013 were the older model engine.)

Can you verify the model and year via the VIN?

[Delta0311]

floydarogers is right on the money. The car is most likely an F30 328, which is a turbo charged 4 banger.. Post up a pic of the car, we'd be able to tell right away.. Or you can post up the vin.

[Antetokounmpo]

Originally Posted by floydarogers

Well, there's a problem with the car's description.

If the car is a 2013 BMW, the 328 designation means an inline 4-cylinder 2.0L turbo-charged engine. The 335i is still an inline-6 (turbocharged).

The last inline non-turbo engine designated by the 328i name that BMW sold in the USA/CA was in 2011 sedans and wagons, and 2012 coupes and convertibles. That was also a 3L inline 6. (It is slightly possible, I suppose, that a few 2013 were the older model engine.)

Can you verify the model and year via the VIN?

Originally Posted by Delta0311

floydarogers is right on the money. The car is most likely an F30 328, which is a turbo charged 4 banger.. Post up a pic of the car, we'd be able to tell right away.. Or you can post up the vin.

No, there are 2013 E92 coupes with the N52. OP is correct.

One example: http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...4287/overview/

OP, considering it's under warranty and was the last MY, and it's an N52, there's not much to worry about. They're pretty dang bulletproof.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by Heel Toe

No, there are 2013 E92 coupes with the N52. OP is correct.

One example: http://www.cars.com/vehicledetail/de...4287/overview/

OP, considering it's under warranty and was the last MY, and it's an N52, there's not much to worry about. They're pretty dang bulletproof.

You're right.. I didn't notice he mentioned that it was a coupe.. Yes this would make it an LCI E92, with a N52. And like you said the engine is rock solid... Not much to worry about.

[amit.sehrawat]

Few pics attached here, I really don't know a lot about it, I can get the VIN number from dealer though.
http://postimg.org/image/ekmj67vlb/
http://postimg.org/image/swdh2irrh/

I think only we can confirm which engine it uses, is through VIN number.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by amit.sehrawat

Few pics attached here, I really don't know a lot about it, I can get the VIN number from dealer though.
http://postimg.org/image/ekmj67vlb/
http://postimg.org/image/swdh2irrh/

I think only we can confirm which engine it uses, is through VIN number.

No need that is an LCI-E92 328, with a N52 3.0 6-cylinder NA motor. Car is good to go..

[fravel]

That's definitely an E92, so it has the N52. NA I6.

Maintenance costs will vary widely based on your ability to DIY. Parts for these cars aren't really cheap, but the real "pain" of repairing them comes from the labor hours that a technician will charge you.

Personally, I probably wouldn't want to own one out of warranty if I wasn't very capable with a wrench. My car would have become unfeasible to keep running very quick.

[Delta0311]

I wouldn't worry much about owning a 328 out of warranty. I had a 328 and drove it to 94k miles with only having to replace the valve cover gasket.. If you keep up with preventative maintenance as the miles add up, you should have very few issues..

Main problems on these cars are the gasket and the water pump.. All tend to fail somewhere around 80k+ miles. Yes there have been instance of them failing earlier but general consensus is at about 80k or so.


Now if this was an 07 335 then yeah I'd say, RUN!!!

[amit.sehrawat]

Thanks for your replies.
Learning so far: regular preemptive maintenance, good fuel, keep an eye on usual suspects and buy a wrench and learn how to use it.


Are third party warranties worth buying? There is this one which allows me use $110 labor/hour and does not push me towards network dealers with $100 deductible once factory warranty wears off after an year.

[W37V]

Originally Posted by floydarogers

Well, there's a problem with the car's description.

If the car is a 2013 BMW, the 328 designation means an inline 4-cylinder 2.0L turbo-charged engine. The 335i is still an inline-6 (turbocharged).

The last inline non-turbo engine designated by the 328i name that BMW sold in the USA/CA was in 2011 sedans and wagons, and 2012 coupes and convertibles. That was also a 3L inline 6. (It is slightly possible, I suppose, that a few 2013 were the older model engine.)

Can you verify the model and year via the VIN?

So much NO

He said is coupe. Coupes 328 were produced with n52 engine until 2013. The last NA inline 6 from bmw on US market.

Please before you mislead people

[floydarogers]

Originally Posted by W37V

So much NO

He said is coupe. Coupes 328 were produced with n52 engine until 2013. The last NA inline 6 from bmw on US market.

2012 was the first year for the sedan and wagon for F30/F31. Coupes and Convertibles have IN THE PAST followed one year later. BMW decided to change that for the F32/F33. My son's 335i coupe is a 2007 model, for instance.

And did you notice the caveats I put in my post; give me break.

And, OP, if the price seems reasonable (other posters have implied it sounds good) for the options on the car, it's probably not a bad car to buy.

[kdbryce]

Seems pretty pricey to me, but I guess I don't know that much about 328s

[tgyberg]

Does seem just a bit high on the price. Maybe $3000 less and I'd take it

[amit.sehrawat]

Originally Posted by kdbryce

Seems pretty pricey to me, but I guess I don't know that much about 328s

Originally Posted by tgyberg

Does seem just a bit high on the price. Maybe $3000 less and I'd take it

It does have premium and navigation package. I just added features on the original post as well. Not sure if that would drive the price.

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by amit.sehrawat

It does have premium and navigation package. I just added features on the original post as well. Not sure if that would drive the price.

In 2013 I picked up a 2011 335xi with 24k miles; it's fully loaded.. Price after some negotiating came to $33k WITH tax. So I agree with others, price is too high.

tgyberg is right.. Price should be $24k. Come in towards the end of the month and insist at $23k.. They probably wont budge at that price but if you hold your ground you should be able to walk away with it for about $25k.

[amit.sehrawat]

I also want to make an informed choice, can someone give me insight into how much it would cost me for next 4-5 years for owning that car in terms in maintenance, repair etc. Considering I will take it from 30K to 80K in next 4-5 years. I am not handy guy today, I do not even have my own garage, I live in an apartment(possibly for couple of more years).
However, I am a calm driver and does not push the car to its fullest.

Is it realistic to expect that this car would cost me less than 2000 per year if I have the third party warranty if add 12K per year?

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by amit.sehrawat

I also want to make an informed choice, can someone give me insight into how much it would cost me for next 4-5 years for owning that car in terms in maintenance, repair etc. Considering I will take it from 30K to 80K in next 4-5 years. I am not handy guy today, I do not even have my own garage, I live in an apartment(possibly for couple of more years).
However, I am a calm driver and does not push the car to its fullest.

Is it realistic to expect that this car would cost me less than 2000 per year if I have the third party warranty if add 12K per year?

This is not a 1990s Hyudai that is in the shop so much, that you're practically putting the mechanic's kids through college. Do oil changes at every 5-7k miles and fill up on 93 octane gas. For my 328 I spent a decent amount on mods and next to nothing on repairs.. The only thing I had replaced was the valve cover gasket but that was at over 80k miles.. I had my friend do it so the cost was next to nothing.. I did all the preventative maintenance though.

[Mr. Toad]

Originally Posted by amit.sehrawat

I also want to make an informed choice, can someone give me insight into how much it would cost me for next 4-5 years for owning that car in terms in maintenance, repair etc. Considering I will take it from 30K to 80K in next 4-5 years. I am not handy guy today, I do not even have my own garage, I live in an apartment(possibly for couple of more years).
However, I am a calm driver and does not push the car to its fullest.

Is it realistic to expect that this car would cost me less than 2000 per year if I have the third party warranty if add 12K per year?

You indicated that the car will be under factory warranty for another year, so this means you also have all scheduled maintenance covered for a year (a BMW dealer will perform this work at no charge to you).

Is the car for sale by a BMW dealer, or an independent retailer?

[amit.sehrawat]

Originally Posted by rjg

You indicated that the car will be under factory warranty for another year, so this means you also have all scheduled maintenance covered for a year (a BMW dealer will perform this work at no charge to you).

Is the car for sale by a BMW dealer, or an independent retailer?

Yes, it will be under warranty for 1 more year. It's an independent retailer.

[amit.sehrawat]

Originally Posted by Delta0311

This is not a 1990s Hyudai that is in the shop so much, that you're practically putting the mechanic's kids through college. Do oil changes at every 5-7k miles and fill up on 93 octane gas. For my 328 I spent a decent amount on mods and next to nothing on repairs.. The only thing I had replaced was the valve cover gasket but that was at over 80k miles.. I had my friend do it so the cost was next to nothing.. I did all the preventative maintenance though.

Is third party warranty a good bet in this case?

[Delta0311]

Originally Posted by amit.sehrawat

Is third party warranty a good bet in this case?

Depends on the warranty. Sit down with the dealer and ask exactly what is covered.