E92, PDC sounds lost after coding base -> hifi

Kannu · 09-07-2015, 10:16 AM

Couple of days ago i finished my install of

- Gladen harness (4ch)
- Mosconi d2 80.6
- Gladen BMW 201

Installation went smooth and everything worked after firing the system up. The PDC sounds and gongs were normal and working.

We then coded the car to hifi, which obviously changed the overall sound but at the same time lost all the PDC sounds (front and rear).

Any ideas what could be the reason?

Before installation (with the oem base) i noticed, that the PDC sounds were a lot more metallic than in my previous car with oem hifi. Are the sounds even coming from the main speakers or does the PDC system have their own speakers front and back?

This is the last hurdle to cross before I can get tuning the new sound!

ctuna · 09-07-2015, 12:42 PM

You might have to go into the rad file or idrive file an turn it
back on.
there should be some stuff about PDC being activ or nicht activ in there
someplace.
Also are the back channels still hooked up?
Curious as to what year can and what you used as a coding setup.
Because they say the 2010 and after cars require an icom cable.

For example in my rad file PDC is turned off since I don't have it.

CODIERUNG_ERFOLGT
codierung_erfolgt
CDC
nicht_aktiv
AUDIO_SYSTEM
pl2_hifi
pl3_hifi
SDARS
nicht_aktiv
PDC
nicht_aktiv
ACC
nicht_aktiv
STANDHEIZUNG
nicht_aktiv
AUX_RAD
aux

Kannu · 09-07-2015, 01:08 PM

I have the cable, but i didn't code it myself. Never done any coding, need to learn it first.

Coding was done by the audio shop where i bought the amp from...

How do i access the rad-file if i could at least check it?

Edit: Everything is still hooked and no IDrive...

ctuna · 09-07-2015, 01:13 PM

Kannu · 09-11-2015, 06:56 AM

Here is the reply that i got from the coder:

"The only thing I have done it to add the 676 option then reset your radio using SG_RESET with NCS.
It was not possible to do a SG_CODIEREN with your OBD cable
No individual settings were changed as such.
Then I removed the 676 option from your VO

My guess is that your radio needs the fibre optic interface in order to reset properly, called the ICOM. Some late radios can not be reset using OBD."

Does this seem corect? For some reason, my local coder is unable to Access the radio / Business HU with NCS.

So is somekind of reset needed or what?

ctuna · 09-11-2015, 11:18 AM

On the newer radio(2010 and after) you need an icom cable to manipulate it
at least that is the popular knowledge here.
The details at to why have not been posted.
I don't see how he could have changed the setup if he didn't
have a cable that worked. You could also try entering the VO option
for PDC in the VO.

The expert on this is makkan00 in England.

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704363

Bimmertech could also help you.

Kannu · 09-11-2015, 12:47 PM

The car is 2008, so shouldn't be that.

Makkan said, that the HU needs to be Professional on order to work but the seller (Germaniks) said it would also work with the Business.

Nice to know this now.

09-07-2015, 10:16 AM	#1
Kannu Private 1 Rep 66 Posts Drives: F20 120d M sport Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Finland iTrader: (0)	E92, PDC sounds lost after coding base -> hifi Couple of days ago i finished my install of - Gladen harness (4ch) - Mosconi d2 80.6 - Gladen BMW 201 Installation went smooth and everything worked after firing the system up. The PDC sounds and gongs were normal and working. We then coded the car to hifi, which obviously changed the overall sound but at the same time lost all the PDC sounds (front and rear). Any ideas what could be the reason? Before installation (with the oem base) i noticed, that the PDC sounds were a lot more metallic than in my previous car with oem hifi. Are the sounds even coming from the main speakers or does the PDC system have their own speakers front and back? This is the last hurdle to cross before I can get tuning the new sound!
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09-07-2015, 12:42 PM	#2
ctuna Lieutenant General 1911 Rep 13,103 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	You might have to go into the rad file an turn it You might have to go into the rad file or idrive file an turn it back on. there should be some stuff about PDC being activ or nicht activ in there someplace. Also are the back channels still hooked up? Curious as to what year can and what you used as a coding setup. Because they say the 2010 and after cars require an icom cable. For example in my rad file PDC is turned off since I don't have it. CODIERUNG_ERFOLGT codierung_erfolgt CDC nicht_aktiv AUDIO_SYSTEM pl2_hifi pl3_hifi SDARS nicht_aktiv PDC nicht_aktiv ACC nicht_aktiv STANDHEIZUNG nicht_aktiv AUX_RAD aux Last edited by ctuna; 09-07-2015 at 12:52 PM..
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Kannu Private 1 Rep 66 Posts Drives: F20 120d M sport Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Finland iTrader: (0)	I have the cable, but i didn't code it myself. Never done any coding, need to learn it first. Coding was done by the audio shop where i bought the amp from... How do i access the rad-file if i could at least check it? Edit: Everything is still hooked and no IDrive...
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09-07-2015, 01:13 PM	#4
ctuna Lieutenant General 1911 Rep 13,103 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	You have to learn to do the coding You have to learn to do the coding . Go to the coding subforum and learn to use NCS expert. Or you could go back to the shop that did it and ask if they can edit your file. coding These are some interesting coding files I think the basic one on how to code it three or 4 links down. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=oil+gauge http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=802793 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=480261 http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum....php?t=1517538 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603002 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CPqY7sEC#gid=0 http://www.amazon.com/Bluetooth-ELM-...d_rhf_ee_shvl2 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=626106 http://forums.5series.net/topic/1060...g/page__st__15 http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...QBEN1T21N1M4QB https://wiki.bentleypublishers.com/d...4242A6C62198A5 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=603585 http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=stereo http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=stereo http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ghlight=usenet http://bmwcoders.com/forum/ https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/...CPqY7sEC#gid=0 http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j...,d.cGE&cad=rja
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09-11-2015, 06:56 AM	#5
Kannu Private 1 Rep 66 Posts Drives: F20 120d M sport Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Finland iTrader: (0)	Here is the reply that i got from the coder: "The only thing I have done it to add the 676 option then reset your radio using SG_RESET with NCS. It was not possible to do a SG_CODIEREN with your OBD cable No individual settings were changed as such. Then I removed the 676 option from your VO My guess is that your radio needs the fibre optic interface in order to reset properly, called the ICOM. Some late radios can not be reset using OBD." Does this seem corect? For some reason, my local coder is unable to Access the radio / Business HU with NCS. So is somekind of reset needed or what?
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09-11-2015, 11:18 AM	#6
ctuna Lieutenant General 1911 Rep 13,103 Posts Drives: 325xi 06 wagon MT Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Santa Cruz, Ca iTrader: (0)	On the newer radio you need an icom cable On the newer radio(2010 and after) you need an icom cable to manipulate it at least that is the popular knowledge here. The details at to why have not been posted. I don't see how he could have changed the setup if he didn't have a cable that worked. You could also try entering the VO option for PDC in the VO. The expert on this is makkan00 in England. http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704363 Bimmertech could also help you. Last edited by ctuna; 09-11-2015 at 11:26 AM..
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09-11-2015, 12:47 PM	#7
Kannu Private 1 Rep 66 Posts Drives: F20 120d M sport Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Finland iTrader: (0)	The car is 2008, so shouldn't be that. Makkan said, that the HU needs to be Professional on order to work but the seller (Germaniks) said it would also work with the Business. Nice to know this now. Last edited by Kannu; 09-11-2015 at 02:00 PM..
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