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      05-27-2015, 08:18 PM   #1
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Shell V-Power® NiTRO+ Premium Gasoline

I don't have a link to the info, but received an email about this new Shell fuel. I use Shell only where I live due to good price and I consider it a good gasoline. This grade looks good. Wonder what the price premium will be.
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      05-27-2015, 08:55 PM   #2
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Another marketing gimmick for gullible enthusiasts
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      05-27-2015, 09:47 PM   #3
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Looking at the spec sheet it appears to just be another set of detergents and solvents added, no more power, no nitro. But with direct injection I guess every bit of cleaning you can get is good.
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      05-27-2015, 10:04 PM   #4
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Another marketing gimmick for gullible enthusiasts
So I guess it's SAMs club gas for you! Touché!
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      05-27-2015, 10:51 PM   #5
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So I guess it's SAMs club gas for you! Touché!
Costco primarily - 10 years and running strong
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      05-27-2015, 11:00 PM   #6
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Costco primarily - 10 years and running strong
same as chevron around my area, ive even seen their logo trucks fill up the underground tanks in the wee hours of the morning.
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      05-27-2015, 11:04 PM   #7
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I have a family friend that owns and operates 100s of gas stations and said its all the same. He even puts regular in his Ferrari and Porsche etc saying even the octane thing is a gimmick since it's only a difference of a percent point or two.
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      05-27-2015, 11:11 PM   #8
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Costco primarily - 10 years and running strong
Costco's gasoline is now a Top Tier brand so it meets their standards for additives and detergents.

Anything that is promised by the marketing department is subject to change without notice.
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Costco's gasoline is now a Top Tier brand so it meets their standards for additives and detergents.

Anything that is promised by the marketing department is subject to change without notice.
Really? I thought I felt my v-power nitro kick in the other day
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      05-28-2015, 04:18 AM   #10
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It has higher octane rating, at least in UK. I use it because it's one of few fuels available that match BMW's recommended octane rating.
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      05-28-2015, 06:39 AM   #11
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I have a family friend that owns and operates 100s of gas stations and said its all the same. He even puts regular in his Ferrari and Porsche etc saying even the octane thing is a gimmick since it's only a difference of a percent point or two.
Thats BS, your engine will knock with lower octane. Try it. High compression engines do not run well on regular. And if this idiot drives a ferrari, he can afford $5 per fill up.
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      05-28-2015, 06:56 AM   #12
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Thats BS, your engine will knock with lower octane. Try it. High compression engines do not run well on regular. And if this idiot drives a ferrari, he can afford $5 per fill up.
Most modern cars can retard the timing (at the expense of power) to run on lower octane. But nothing says "I bought my car exclusively as a status symbol" like running 87 in a 6 figure car, though! Probably buys the cheapest tires that fit his wheels, too.
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      05-28-2015, 07:11 AM   #13
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QuickTrip is the only gas thats been in my car since its been stateside. Never an issue.
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      05-28-2015, 07:58 AM   #14
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QuickTrip is the only gas thats been in my car since its been stateside. Never an issue.
You must be in Atlanta or Georgia. I miss the QT.
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      05-28-2015, 08:46 AM   #15
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Another marketing gimmick for gullible enthusiasts
It's not really a gimmick. Of course the names that companies give their gasolines are sometimes a bit 'hyped-up', but most marketing is that way in any industry.

I'm a consultant in the energy and natural resources industry and I have worked in both upstream and downstream (refining) ends and I can attest to when new technologies are developed to refine the oil/gas, of course they want to let the consumer know.
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      05-28-2015, 10:25 AM   #16
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You must be in Atlanta or Georgia. I miss the QT.
Or both at the same time
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      05-28-2015, 11:47 AM   #17
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If gasoline retailers were honest, they would say "Gasoline additive package update 2015-May-v2" or something like that.. and you cant Trademark it, put it on signage and build ad campaigns around it. So we get all these stupid names. "MAXTRON QUADRO NITROTECH ALPHA --- THE ULTIMATE POWER OF INERT GAS ADDED TO A COMMODITY PRODUCT"

But yeah octane matters. I also would not be surpriseed that any given gas station sells lower octane, or dilluted solution to be a lower octane without anyone noticing on occasion.
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      05-28-2015, 12:27 PM   #18
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Lot of misleading info flying around here. A few notes:

1. Top tier gas vs. Lower detergent gas makes no difference on valve deposit build up in direct injection cars because the problem is that no gas vapor hits the backside of the valves (or not enough at least).

2. Detergents are mainly interested in maintaining high performing injectors so that combustion remains efficient. However, injector performance is much more a function of design, build quality, fuel filtration, and other elements than about fuel quality. This is why some cars can run 300,000 miles on original injectors without a problem while others develop poor injection by 100,000 miles.

3. Low quality gas is not a big deal because there are reasonable, minimum quality standards in place for all gas. If you are paranoid, run an additive every 3,000-5,000 miles - however, know that that is against manufacturer recommendations in most cases.

4. Cars can adjust to different octane levels to a very modest degree. However, they can't infinitely adjust. Maintaining a good octane is important, even in today's vehicles. Conversely, you can't run e50 in a stock car (which will have a much higher octane) and expect a good result.
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      05-28-2015, 10:21 PM   #19
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Well then why does the east coast where my brother live exclusively sell 93 octane as premium and the west coast where I live exclusively sell 91 octane as the premium? If it really made a difference then it would be consistent across the U.S.

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Thats BS, your engine will knock with lower octane. Try it. High compression engines do not run well on regular. And if this idiot drives a ferrari, he can afford $5 per fill up.
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      05-28-2015, 10:30 PM   #20
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Well then why does the east coast where my brother live exclusively sell 93 octane as premium and the west coast where I live exclusively sell 91 octane as the premium? If it really made a difference then it would be consistent across the U.S.
Emission laws. That is some very poor logic.
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      05-29-2015, 09:42 AM   #21
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exactly, a couple points has zero impact on modern cars and is strictly marketing. But then again what does my buddy know, he only owns a few hundred gas stations? And what do you do for a living??? The way you talk you are definitely a yes man working for someone, not an entrepreneur

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exactly, a couple points has zero impact on modern cars and is strictly marketing. But then again what does my buddy know, he only owns a few hundred gas stations? And what do you do for a living??? The way you talk you are definitely a yes man working for someone, not an entrepreneur
Just because your buddy owns a few gas stations (Franchised or Independent), doesn't make him an expert in Petroleum Engineering. I wish it were the case, where business owners are fully educated and hold degrees specifically in the products they sell.....but unfortunately, that's not the norm nor an expectation.

Slap your buddy across the head for putting low octane fuel in his Ferrari and stay far away from his gas stations. An independent owner that thinks along those lines, is most probably cheating his customers by ordering only the lowest octane gas and selling it off as the higher.

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