[bladeomatic]

I've got an amazing 2014 M235i that has about 12k on it. No troubles so far except a flat tire (thank you wheel/tire ins) and a cracked windshield. I paid for a 3k oil change for my break-in piece of mind and already received my 10k oil change (free). My question: What isn't covered in the new car warranty? I don't want to dig through the fine print, but if any of you know a summary...

I assume tires are on me.
Wiper blades?
Brake pads?
All fluids?

TIA.

[hyperzulu]

You're asking about "warranty" but also mentioning things not covered under a warranty, but under BMW's maintenance plan.

From what I've experienced and seen/read, everything but drive-related incidentals are covered. Aside from tires, anything that is a consumable, that has been consumed, is covered.

Brake pads - covered
Rotors - covered
Fluids - covered (but generally under their schedule - except gasoline... I haven't gotten them to replace the fluids in my tank once, damn it!)

[caycep]

You need an i3 for that!

[Cyberdemon]

Wipers are covered, but make sure to mention it to them otherwise they generally won't replace them. I usually get them done every oil change.

[Declio]

I would assume clutch/clutch disc as well if you have the manual option.

[tke743]

Originally Posted by Declio

I would assume clutch/clutch disc as well if you have the manual option.

Correct, basically everything except the tires. That is, of course, if you are under the original warrantee and maintenance plan.

[Roman G]

Curious about the brakes.

Im at 4800+ miles so far so haven't had my first oil change yet (computer shows in about 2000 miles)

As far as brakes go....Im assuming they will only replace pads AFTER certain mileage? Say if you kill your brake pads BEFORE x amount of miles its on you? or will they replace them regardless within reason? Say 10000 miles as an example.

Roman

[tke743]

Originally Posted by Roman G

Curious about the brakes.

Im at 4800+ miles so far so haven't had my first oil change yet (computer shows in about 2000 miles)

As far as brakes go....Im assuming they will only replace pads AFTER certain mileage? Say if you kill your brake pads BEFORE x amount of miles its on you? or will they replace them regardless within reason? Say 10000 miles as an example.

Roman

They will replace them when needed, independent of the milage. That said there is always the "within reason" rule. If you get them changed on a Friday and you are back on Monday with worn pads, then...

[Pyewacket69]

Originally Posted by tke743

Correct, basically everything except the tires. That is, of course, if you are under the original warrantee and maintenance plan.

To get a replacement clutch under the 4 year 50 K mile warranty/maintenance plan, you're gonna have to do one helluva song-and-dance routine.

Unless there is a physical evidence of failure evident (broken clutch spring, lever, etc,) you're gonna hear that "sorry, this repair isn't covered" phrase from your SA.

Don't take my word for it, just ask anyone whose had the experience.

A burned out clutch is a symptom of driver incompetence/misuse at 50 K miles. That's not me saying that, but it's what BMW will say (yet, I agree with them).

[Cyberdemon]

Yeah if you have to replace a clutch at 50k you are slipping the clutch way more than it is designed for. I'm not sure if that is covered since it would be considered abuse and could likely be proven by a hot spotted flywheel.

For brakes, they will replace them when they need to be replaced, and not sooner.

I did not have to replace the brakes on my F30 after 40k so I couldn't tell you. I had a substantial amount of pad left even with the more aggressive M sport compound pads.

If you are tracking the car on BMW's dime they will notice that the pads needed to be replaced multiple times and will more than likely call you out on it.

[DanG]

Oh, and the battery is usually not cover either.

[sstarrx3]

They pretty much made me come in for my first oil change in February even though I purchased my car in June last yeat and it had less than 4000 miles on it. They calculate the 12 months from the date of production, not the of purchase. I had a 1/14 build date.

[Pyewacket69]

BMW is pretty good and being able to determine normal wear-and-tear .vs. abuse.

I'm sure that somewhere in the literature there's an "abuse" clause that exempts coverage.

[Declio]

Originally Posted by Pyewacket69

To get a replacement clutch under the 4 year 50 K mile warranty/maintenance plan, you're gonna have to do one helluva song-and-dance routine.

Unless there is a physical evidence of failure evident (broken clutch spring, lever, etc,) you're gonna hear that "sorry, this repair isn't covered" phrase from your SA.

Don't take my word for it, just ask anyone whose had the experience.

A burned out clutch is a symptom of driver incompetence/misuse at 50 K miles. That's not me saying that, but it's what BMW will say (yet, I agree with them).

Yeah always wondered about that. Seems like clutch plate would be a point of contention, but if you were to do most of your driving in bumper to bumper traffic it doesn't seem unreasonable to imagine a clutch wearing out before 50k without abuse.

The oem clutch on my '11 WRX was toast after about 55k miles, which surprised me since I did not "abuse" the clutch at all. I did, however, do 80% of my driving in traffic. Would never have guessed it was as bad as it was (was not yet slipping), but decided to check it out when the motor was pulled for a rebuild and saw the damage.

[Pyewacket69]

Originally Posted by Declio

Yeah always wondered about that. Seems like clutch plate would be a point of contention, but if you were to do most of your driving in bumper to bumper traffic it doesn't seem unreasonable to imagine a clutch wearing out before 50k without abuse.

The oem clutch on my '11 WRX was toast after about 55k miles, which surprised me since I did not "abuse" the clutch at all. I did, however, do 80% of my driving in traffic. Would never have guessed it was as bad as it was (was not yet slipping), but decided to check it out when the motor was pulled for a rebuild and saw the damage.

Why was a rebuild needed at 55K?

[Declio]

Originally Posted by Pyewacket69

Why was a rebuild needed at 55K?

cause subaru ringlands.

oem pistons are notoriously weak. I was making stage 2 power (nothing crazy, around 300whp) and they cracked...low compression in cylinder 2. Very common issue and I was one of the unlucky winners. Had the motor rebuilt with forged pistons and sold the car shortly thereafter sadly. Looking forward to being in a stock vehicle for a while!

[justinnum1]

there is a clutch sensor that can tell the dealer if its been abused.

[Pyewacket69]

Originally Posted by justinnum1

there is a clutch sensor that can tell the dealer if its been abused.

Ummm... Not according to the parts diagrams. If there's a clutch wear sensor, I wasn't able to locate it.

[cehlion]

Originally Posted by Pyewacket69

To get a replacement clutch under the 4 year 50 K mile warranty/maintenance plan, you're gonna have to do one helluva song-and-dance routine.

Unless there is a physical evidence of failure evident (broken clutch spring, lever, etc,) you're gonna hear that "sorry, this repair isn't covered" phrase from your SA.

Don't take my word for it, just ask anyone whose had the experience.

A burned out clutch is a symptom of driver incompetence/misuse at 50 K miles. That's not me saying that, but it's what BMW will say (yet, I agree with them).

I keep my cars a long time (I'm still driving my 2002 325i I ordered 14 yeas ago). I repalced the clutch 4 years ago when the car had 120,000 miles and and they told me I could of gone another 20,000 miles ore more before it needed it. Its another reason I'm going with the MT on my new 2. Cheapest part of the car to maintain.