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      04-30-2015, 02:38 PM   #1
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OK, already sick of it..

washing my rims!

I need someone to recommend a total wheel care program, DIY, for laziest man on the planet.

Does such a system exist? Maybe something like a spray foam that cleans with just water pressure and leaves wheels looking like new with no damage to the finish.

I've been doing my rims by hand with soap, brush and elbow grease years with great success but lately I've been hating the task more and more as it sometimes takes as long as it does to wash the car. Plus with all the recent road patching debris splatter all over the place, year after year, it seems like a losing battle sometimes.

Little help?

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I hear ya. A coating on the rims will certainly help. Carbon Ceramic Brakes would have solved the problem too. Maybe try some low-dust brake pads? I was gonna look into that myself at some point. BMW had started using low-dust pads a few years back, but guess they didn't fit for our cars
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I hear ya. A coating on the rims will certainly help. Carbon Ceramic Brakes would have solved the problem too. Maybe try some low-dust brake pads? I was gonna look into that myself at some point. BMW had started using low-dust pads a few years back, but guess they didn't fit for our cars
They are much better than they were years ago but not to the point of ceramics, but yeah I'm starting to rethink the $8000+ option might have been justifiable over the course of a lifetime of rim cleaning . Unless they had to be replaced.
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Cheapest option is to get the 18s. They don't show the dust much at all. Black seem to be the worst they get dull fast.
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Cheapest option is to get the 18s. They don't show the dust much at all. Black seem to be the worst they get dull fast.
Agreed. I'm fortunate enough to had clicked the silver 19s box rather than the black ones as I figured that would be the case.
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I used to use BMW wheel cleaner and it did exactly what you described. Spray on , wait 3 minutes, hose off and everything washed away. About 4 years ago I think they changed the formula and it never worked the same, in fact it was garbage. I wish BMW would bring back the old formula but it probably killed dandelions or something so they had to fix it.

I haven't found anything equivalent since and I have tried a lot.
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Had mine coated with CQ Finest. Dirt and dust come off with a hose. Except the little 1 inch area behind the spokes that you can't see. But I can see it, so I STILL feel compelled to scrub it with a soft little brush. DAMN YOU TO HELL, OCD!
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Had mine coated with CQ Finest. Dirt and dust come off with a hose. Except the little 1 inch area behind the spokes that you can't see. But I can see it, so I STILL feel compelled to scrub it with a soft little brush. DAMN YOU TO HELL, OCD!
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I used to use BMW wheel cleaner and it did exactly what you described. Spray on , wait 3 minutes, hose off and everything washed away. About 4 years ago I think they changed the formula and it never worked the same, in fact it was garbage. I wish BMW would bring back the old formula but it probably killed dandelions or something so they had to fix it.

I haven't found anything equivalent since and I have tried a lot.
That sounded perfect, spay, hose off, hit the couch, get a beer. Sad to hear!
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Had mine coated with CQ Finest. Dirt and dust come off with a hose. Except the little 1 inch area behind the spokes that you can't see. But I can see it, so I STILL feel compelled to scrub it with a soft little brush. DAMN YOU TO HELL, OCD!
I have a small spray bottle mixed with water and a little soap. I spray the wheels good before I run it through the touch less car wash. They come out good. If your looking for a quick easy wash between hand details.
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Sonax full effect wheel cleaner works well.
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^Seems good products and good brush, to which I use both, will always need a can of "Elbow Grease" to get satisfactory results. That or just find a neighborhood boy that wants to make a few bucks.

Thanks everyone!
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Opti, foam cannon, and an electric pressure washer. To me Sonax is over priced, does not even work as well as mothers from auto zone, and stanks.
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Look on amazon for wheel brushes. Many to choose from they really make it easy.
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The dust factor is a trade off you can't avoid. Better performance always = more dust. Less dust always = less performance. If it's really a nightmare for you and you don't track the car I'd recommend something like the Hawk HP pads. Not the HPS (those are dusty too). If you go to the track you can swap in the factory or better pads. It's easy to swap on these cars.

You'll feel the difference in initial bite and feel but stopping power will be the same unless you heat them up (130-20 a couple of times) then you'll really feel the difference with more fade. But for 99% that don't track the car they are more then enough.
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Griot's Garage Heavy Duty Wheel Cleaner is 95% as good as Sonax, costs much less, and can be found in local auto parts stores.

Key is to use it frequently. If you let the car go awhile before washing and the dust gets built up, it won't work well without brushing.

Power washer also helps.

Agree that coating the wheels (cquartz, optician, etc) is a good move. Look to see if you can find a detailer who will pull the wheels and really coat it well. That should eliminate the "behind the spoke" issue.
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Griot's Garage Heavy Duty Wheel Cleaner is 95% as good as Sonax, costs much less, and can be found in local auto parts stores.

Key is to use it frequently. If you let the car go awhile before washing and the dust gets built up, it won't work well without brushing.

Power washer also helps.

Agree that coating the wheels (cquartz, optician, etc) is a good move. Look to see if you can find a detailer who will pull the wheels and really coat it well. That should eliminate the "behind the spoke" issue.
Good advise. Sounds like brake dust unless you go CC will be an issue. Precoating makes lots of sense along with frequent power washing the rims, I do a wash every 2 wks(unless more needed) so this should be enough to keep me happy.
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