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RACECHIP FOR F30 335I vs afe vs jb4
Ok so I've gone through a few tunes for my car, Started with afe scorcher.
The afe had strong boost down low. My issue with the afe was that the power was not consistent, I felt like the piggy back was fighting the dme and would lose performance as the cars computer seemed to adjust and scale back boost levels while i was cruzing around. With a 6mt the afe also seemed to have weak power after hard pull shifting from first to second gear (kind a flat spot after the shift) if you shift to second easier it pulled more consistent. ok so after being not so happy with afe I bought the JB4 .. slight increase in power more linear power feel but still not consistent. Now a past car I had was a 2008 335 with jb4 and full bolt ons. Car and tune were great .Sold that for 12 s4 thats was just a sick car with apr stage 2 full bolts. So this new bimmer is kind leaving me wanting more. I ran into a thread about the Remus Tune for f30 335 and found out it is a rebranded racechip. Reading up on the racechip I found that it focuses on more computer power with their processor. They also claim they adjust injector volume/pressure. I bought the racechip ultimate $679 (made in germany) I installed 2hrs ago checked car to see if ran proper didnt go out for long but seemed very consistent and pulled way harder mid and top range . Also the car has a much stronger motor feel not just stronger turbo feel,strong power after gear shifts I will up date everyone tomorrow after I get more seat time but so far so good. ps installation way easier then jb4 and way way way more quality. |
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Someone crack the damn ECU already.
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04-17-2015, 05:51 AM | #5 |
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Ok so I'm up early I'm going out to beat the piss out of my car before work! ..so we'll see . ( that trash video mad me wanna kick my dog )
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But about that last comment. It is easier to install because it is a stage 1 tune ( comparable to the JB). JB4 is a stage 2 tune, it connects to more sensors and offers a lot more than stage 1 ( more flexibility, ability to control boost by RPM, Code reading and deleting, datalogging, maps for catless downpipes and FBO cars,etc...). Im not derailing the thread or creating a tuner war, it is your car and you are happy with the tune and that is the important thing. Im just explaining to you why it is easier to install the Race chip.
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04-21-2015, 01:07 AM | #7 |
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it is cracked......where have yall been the past 4 months?
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04-21-2015, 02:28 AM | #8 |
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Obriennathaniel is right. The ECU has been cracked. I'm on it. There are some issues though as we cannot exceed about ~380 hp/ 550Nm.
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Krelle u still have the factory turbo, and the factory TMAP? Or are you pure Stage 2 and N20 TMAP? My stage 2 comes in Thursday then I'm dropping it and my car off Thursday to my tuner so they can work on it and see if they can get past the boost limit issue everyone seems to have with the flash tune. I have the N20 TMAP sensor also.
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The F chassis is not cracked yet since you do not have an accessport that lets you do it at home by yourself. Having to send the ECU to the tuner every time you need something changed is not convenient.
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If I bought the adapter I could Write it in too, but at the moment there's no point as we need to monitor every step we take. /Krelle
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So if you have never sent your ECU to the tuner, would you be able to write your own map?
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If you have the Pure stg 2 I'd still buy the JB4 as no one has found the needle in the stack yet. I am stuck at around 380hp. I do not recommend you go for the flash with Pure stg 2 yet. Unless they have figured it out.. ( Have them promise 460hp). /Krelle
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No I would not. We opened up the ECU and my friend made the "path" in order for us to tune via the obd port. You still need to 1) send your ECU, or 2) visit the tuner yourself. Making the path take less than one hour. /Krelle
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Once you can do it ( Cobb's way) then it is cracked. This does not take anything from the tune itself, im just clarifying the difference between having to send you ECU to a tuner and getting it done on your own in less than 2 minutes.
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Apples and oranges. Who cares.
Anyways, interesting, the n20 TMAP will allow much higher boost, as the factory TMAP can only read so much (can't remember the exact figure). I already have a JB4 but they want a shot at tuning it to see what they can do compared to the JB4. It's reversible so I'll let them have their chance. My turbo comes in today so it's time to play |
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Please keep me posted about their gains. And yep, you can override whatever the do /Krelle
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Ya I get why it is easier then jb4 . Having code deleting canbus access etc etc doesn't really make it a stage 2 tune . I dont care to go catless or meth or run race gas either. A lot of users on here just add the piggy and nothing else. The race chip still controls boost by rpm just like jb4 those extra wires are not needed for that, they are needed for map switching and code delete. I appreciate your comments and expertise but coming from someone that has all 3 tunes the racechip does run much smoother and more consistent and I could careless what tune does it better I'm just gonna run the one that does . I wasted money on a few tunes cause I was unhappy with the inconsistency in performance and the racechip really handles that issue better . Anyone wants buy a used jb4 or afe let me know . On a side note according to racechip some Of the more progressive maps have catless in mind . I'm running one notch over what level it came with. |
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Can you select 3 psi boost at 3000 rpm and 4 psi for 4000 rpm?
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