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      03-27-2015, 04:44 PM   #1
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BMW 0W-40 hits the shelves

Just got 7 liters of the new oil from ECS. I wonder how long before the manual lists this as an acceptable oil for the F8x. Funny there is no mention of API on the bottle...SL? SN?
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Just got 7 liters of the new oil from ECS. I wonder how long before the manual lists this as an acceptable oil for the F8x. Funny there is no mention of API on the bottle...SL? SN?
A bit off topic, but curious it makes no mention of Shell or its subsidiaries which I would assume is now the new provide - no?
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      03-29-2015, 09:14 AM   #3
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I had my dealer special order the Shell M 0w40 and I tried this in my M4 at the 1200 mi service. I drained that stuff out in 100 miles. The car subjectively felt like crap. The engine had no sensation of wanting to pull on the top end. As soon as I refilled with the Shell 5w30 the motor was instantly back to life.
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I had my dealer special order the Shell M 0w40 and I tried this in my M4 at the 1200 mi service. I drained that stuff out in 100 miles. The car subjectively felt like crap. The engine had no sensation of wanting to pull on the top end. As soon as I refilled with the Shell 5w30 the motor was instantly back to life.
I think I remember seeing you post that and not being able to make sense of it. I guess I will have to see.
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tischer has 5W-30 oil change kit for sale for F80/82/83, not 0W-40.
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tischer has 5W-30 oil change kit for sale for F80/82/83, not 0W-40.
Did you read the first post and look at the photos?
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Interesting post. I am getting an interim oil change at the dealership for my first track event of the year and I'll admit that if this is where BMW has gone (M-specific oil and viscosity), I'm happier.

The engine will have been designed around a particular viscosity due to the oil passages, orifices, piston squirters, etc. Not that 0W-40 is particularly heavier than 5W-30 when at operating temp, but will provide slightly thicker viscosity.

Regarding Tony007's experience, I guess I'm surprised that the engine reacted in this fashion. We shall see.

It does appear BMW has replaced the BMW High Performance 5W-30 with this new 0W-40 part number 83212365945KT
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Interesting that bottle says "made in the US" while all the ones here say "made in the EU" (5w-30 and 10w-60. Havent seen any 0W-40 here yet)

The oil for the new Shell BMW range is supposed to be from the Qatar Gas to Liquids plant (GTL).
So I wonder if there are regional variations in all the mixes if the final products since the final products are seemingly not made in Qatar.
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A bit off topic, but curious it makes no mention of Shell or its subsidiaries which I would assume is now the new provide - no?
The back of these newer bottles mention GTL (Gas to Liquids) technology.
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The back of these newer bottles mention GTL (Gas to Liquids) technology.
Indeed yes, as the prior post also mentions - that answers it.
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I just did an Oil change with the New Shell 0w40. The same power as before, no differente in acceleration, etc. Also contacted my contact of the m engine dvelopment in munich. They also told me that this oil has advantages at higher temperatures as expected.
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I just did an Oil change with the New Shell 0w40. The same power as before, no differente in acceleration, etc. Also contacted my contact of the m engine dvelopment in munich. They also told me that this oil has advantages at higher temperatures as expected.
Could you elaborate at all, or is that all your contact said?
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The F8X coolant temps do not seem rise at all even under extreme conditions at the track, but does anyone know if there is a way check oil temps in the iDrive system? I know the newer Corvettes have this ability, would think the M3/4 does too. Coolant temps and oil temps can be drastically different.

If oil temps rise more than we realize, the 0W-40 oil would be an advantage.
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Anyone else that uses this please update how it goes. So far we have 1 negative and 1 positive outcome. I just ordered the new shell version 5w-30 because I didn't want to risk anything, but will get this next time around with more input.
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I had my dealer special order the Shell M 0w40 and I tried this in my M4 at the 1200 mi service. I drained that stuff out in 100 miles. The car subjectively felt like crap. The engine had no sensation of wanting to pull on the top end. As soon as I refilled with the Shell 5w30 the motor was instantly back to life.
What am I reading here? A BMW approved oil made your car slow? Riiiiight...
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I had my dealer special order the Shell M 0w40 and I tried this in my M4 at the 1200 mi service. I drained that stuff out in 100 miles. The car subjectively felt like crap. The engine had no sensation of wanting to pull on the top end. As soon as I refilled with the Shell 5w30 the motor was instantly back to life.
I know you said “subjectively”, but I still find this a little difficult to believe.
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Oil change

Just had the oil changed in my F82 (interim at 7,000 miles) and the oil noted on the repair order is BMW LL-01 5W-30 part # 07-83-21-2-405-085

Anyone seen this part number before? Did a quick search but haven't found it.
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http://www.ecstuning.com/ES2831193/

I google search the part above came up.
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Did an interim oil change last night with the 0W-40 oil. Haven't done many miles yet to test any subjective changes in the running character of the car. I was a bit surprised at the amount of metal shimmer still circulating. Did the change at 3000 miles and was doubting wasting the 100 bucks, but now happy I did it.
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I had my dealer special order the Shell M 0w40 and I tried this in my M4 at the 1200 mi service. I drained that stuff out in 100 miles. The car subjectively felt like crap. The engine had no sensation of wanting to pull on the top end. As soon as I refilled with the Shell 5w30 the motor was instantly back to life.


I hope no one actually believes a slight variation in oil viscosity makes any perceptible difference in engine performance.
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I hope no one actually believes a slight variation in oil viscosity makes any perceptible difference in engine performance.
His perception is his reality.
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