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      02-20-2015, 06:16 PM   #1
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What would make more power... This Vs That

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What I'm thinking about:
VRSF CP / TiAL / Gutted DPs / DCI / TCU Flash / PE Mod
Intercooler (VRSF $500)
E85
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Cheapest Cobb ? / BQ Tuning (Any ideas on $ ?)

What do you guys think?
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      02-20-2015, 06:19 PM   #2
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So the difference is a PRocede with meth no FMIC VS Cobb with FMIC on E85?

That would be pretty darn close. I'd put my money on the meth kit assuming it's tuned for max power but on paper they are probably pretty close on power.
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      02-20-2015, 06:48 PM   #3
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I'd put my money on Cobb/ Wedge BuraQ ( I already have ) I'm running their E60 flash.
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      02-20-2015, 06:58 PM   #4
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The intercooled option won't ever run out of meth/water and E85 with a custom tune is hard to beat.
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The intercooled option won't ever run out of meth/water and E85 with a custom tune is hard to beat.
Wait, how long is this race?!

Octane plus IAT supression is pretty hard to beat on methanol. I've put a lot of FBO E85 guys to shame running Intake tune Meth, no FMIC, just saying...

Although E85 helps bump up octane it doesn't help the IAT suppression and even the best intercooler won't suppress IAT like methanol can.
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Wait, how long is this race?!

Octane plus IAT supression is pretty hard to beat on methanol. I've put a lot of FBO E85 guys to shame running Intake tune Meth, no FMIC, just saying...

Although E85 helps bump up octane it doesn't the IAT suppression and even the best intercooler won't suppress IAT like methanol.
I'd agree that they'd be close in a single race, I was referring to overall performance in regards to running out of meth
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      02-20-2015, 07:13 PM   #7
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I'd agree that they'd be close in a single race, I was referring to overall performance in regards to running out of meth
I may be a little biased about methanol cars but yea it would be really close for sure. In a real world race I'd want to know if they are AT or MT and how heavy the drivers are as the race might be that close. I still always bias for anyone on methanol though cause it's hard to beat the IAT suppression.
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I may be a little biased about methanol cars but yea it would be really close for sure. In a real world race I'd want to know if they are AT or MT and how heavy the drivers are as the race might be that close. I still always bias for anyone on methanol though cause it's hard to beat the IAT suppression.
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My money would be on the meth car

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      02-20-2015, 08:32 PM   #9
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Sounds like I should keep current setup!

New Question and this one would be for WedgePerformance and BuraQ

Would it be possible to assign the PROcede I have as only a methanol controller, as well as flash a tune using my BT Cable through the B.B. Software - As I did my original Wedge Flash.

That way the only thing I would need would be a BQ Tune through you and a Fuel-It Stage 2 Pump - Saving me the cost of a $800+ Cobb

I'd imagine I could even go with 100% E85 at that point versus a blend (not for increase performance - but for ease of use).
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Wait, how long is this race?!

Octane plus IAT supression is pretty hard to beat on methanol. I've put a lot of FBO E85 guys to shame running Intake tune Meth, no FMIC, just saying...

Although E85 helps bump up octane it doesn't help the IAT suppression and even the best intercooler won't suppress IAT like methanol can.
What type of nozzle are you using and meth ratio ?
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both set-ups can be fast. i rather have the second set-up.
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Sounds like I should keep current setup!

New Question and this one would be for WedgePerformance and BuraQ

Would it be possible to assign the PROcede I have as only a methanol controller, as well as flash a tune using my BT Cable through the B.B. Software - As I did my original Wedge Flash.

That way the only thing I would need would be a BQ Tune through you and a Fuel-It Stage 2 Pump - Saving me the cost of a $800+ Cobb

I'd imagine I could even go with 100% E85 at that point versus a blend (not for increase performance - but for ease of use).
This will be answered in a new product release in a few days.
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What I have:
VRSF CP / TiAL / Gutted DPs / DCI / TCU Flash / PE Mod
Vishnu Procede 2.5 / Custom Procede Maps
Vishnu PWM Methanol Kit
Older Wedge DME Flash that I did with my BT Cable

What I'm thinking about:
VRSF CP / TiAL / Gutted DPs / DCI / TCU Flash / PE Mod
Intercooler (VRSF $500)
E85
Fuel-It Stage 2 Pump ($405)
Cheapest Cobb ? / BQ Tuning (Any ideas on $ ?)

What do you guys think?
meth if you down.

i would do e85 less hassle
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Although E85 helps bump up octane it doesn't help the IAT suppression and even the best intercooler won't suppress IAT like methanol can.
+1 on the lower IAT with meth..
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      02-23-2015, 01:46 PM   #15
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This will be answered in a new product release in a few days.
Can't wait!

Judging by your signature, MHD Flasher?
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