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      11-02-2014, 08:32 PM   #1
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Is a 1.5 Ton Hydraulic Floor Jack sufficient for changing tires?

I have a 1.5 ton (3,000 lbs) floor jack that I want to use for swapping my summer and winter wheels. The curb weight on the M235i (manual) is 3,505 lbs.

From what I've gathered, this jack should be sufficient since I'm only jacking up one wheel at a time and not lifting the whole weight of the car. Thoughts?

Also, are the lift points wide enough for me to slide jack stands under after raising with the floor jack? To be clear, if I'm using the lift point located under the driver's side front, will I be able to put the jack stand under the same lift point?

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      11-02-2014, 08:46 PM   #2
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I haven't inspected your garage jack but I used to use a 1.5 ton rated unit on my Mercedes - but don't place any part of your body under the car!
I'm not visualizing your plan for the jack-stand, I personally don't use rear-diff or any front central suspension or frame or cradle to lift the front, particularly with a 1.5 ton rated unit.

I also recommend jack pad tools - the accessory that snaps into the cars rubber lift pad point and protects your jack from ripping the cars rubber pad.

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      11-02-2014, 09:42 PM   #3
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The lift point will def handle jack stands but as stranded above buy the adapters, they'll keep the plastic pieces in perfect shape
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      11-02-2014, 10:44 PM   #4
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1.5T is definitely good enough for one corner at a time.

I use 2 x 1.5T floor jacks and car stands only when I need to leave car up for extended period.
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so where do you jack the car from to put the stands ? cause looks like there is only 1 lift point on each corner
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      11-03-2014, 07:11 AM   #6
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There is one up front and the rear diff is the other
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      11-03-2014, 10:22 AM   #7
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Jack the car up under the diff and put jack stands under the lift pads on the sides. For the front, usually there is a brace or lift point somewhere under there to lift the front half of the car. Might need to use boards to lift the front of the car high enough to get a jack under there. The pains of owning a low car...

I use a little 1.5 ton Harbor Freight special and two Craftsman jack stands and they are inexpensive and work great.
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Does anyone have a link to purchase the jack adapters for the m235?
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      11-03-2014, 12:38 PM   #9
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I use a 1.5, it just does no jack quite as easy. The adapters should be the same as the 1 series.....
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      11-03-2014, 01:03 PM   #10
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Jack the car up under the diff and put jack stands under the lift pads on the sides. For the front, usually there is a brace or lift point somewhere under there to lift the front half of the car. Might need to use boards to lift the front of the car high enough to get a jack under there. The pains of owning a low car...

I use a little 1.5 ton Harbor Freight special and two Craftsman jack stands and they are inexpensive and work great.
i guess it's this

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      11-03-2014, 01:38 PM   #11
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^^^ yes, that's it on an E46. I'm not 100% sure the 2er has one there but I would assume it does since most other BMWs have it.
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      11-03-2014, 01:52 PM   #12
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Does anyone have a link to purchase the jack adapters for the m235?
These are the pads I use for my car
http://www.reverselogic.us/phone/bmw_jack_pad.html

I would e-mail them to confirm the pad has the little plastic nubs that click the tool into the pad from below, so that the jack pad tool hangs from the cars jack pad to make it easy to align the hydraulic jack to the pad tool.

BMP offers a similar pad tool in blue,

Be careful, because if the contact surface of your hydraulic jack is not a round disc with a plastic pad it may not mate to the pad tool safely.
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Does anyone have a link to purchase the jack adapters for the m235?
http://www.reverselogic.us
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I just bought this jack pad adapter from Burger Motor Sports. Also picked up this wheel hanger pin as well.

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These are the pads I use for my car
http://www.reverselogic.us/phone/bmw_jack_pad.html

I would e-mail them to confirm the pad has the little plastic nubs that click the tool into the pad from below, so that the jack pad tool hangs from the cars jack pad to make it easy to align the hydraulic jack to the pad tool.

BMP offers a similar pad tool in blue,

Be careful, because if the contact surface of your hydraulic jack is not a round disc with a plastic pad it may not mate to the pad tool safely.
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Thanks!
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Finally got around to taking some pictures of the front and rear passenger lift points.

Let's say I was trying to change the front passenger wheel. I plan to put the floor jack w/the adapter in the front lift point. Can I place jack stands in the red circled areas and slightly lower the floor jack? This means the weight of the car is resting on both the jack stand and the floor jack. Are the red circled areas sturdy enough to support the stands?

I don't really want to mess with using the front suspension or the rear diff for changing the wheels, so hoping the above solution works.

Thoughts?

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I haven't inspected your garage jack but I used to use a 1.5 ton rated unit on my Mercedes - but don't place any part of your body under the car!
I'm not visualizing your plan for the jack-stand, I personally don't use rear-diff or any front central suspension or frame or cradle to lift the front, particularly with a 1.5 ton rated unit.

I also recommend jack pad tools - the accessory that snaps into the cars rubber lift pad point and protects your jack from ripping the cars rubber pad.
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No, the red circled area will most likely deform if you rest the weight of the car on them.
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Just picked up the Burger poly jack adapter. $10 shipped off the bay. Very fast ship!
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Finally got around to taking some pictures of the front and rear passenger lift points.

Let's say I was trying to change the front passenger wheel. I plan to put the floor jack w/the adapter in the front lift point. Can I place jack stands in the red circled areas and slightly lower the floor jack? This means the weight of the car is resting on both the jack stand and the floor jack. Are the red circled areas sturdy enough to support the stands?

I don't really want to mess with using the front suspension or the rear diff for changing the wheels, so hoping the above solution works.

Thoughts?
don't do it. what I do: lift the rear jack point high enough to place jack stand under the front jack point. reverse for the rear.
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      11-11-2014, 04:38 PM   #20
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still not sure where is the center front jacking point
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      11-16-2014, 08:46 AM   #21
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Got it. I actually tried tested this method last night without any issue (see below - sorry that the pics are not the greatest).

I still wonder though...Now I have half my car in the air (e.g., the entire right side or entire left side), as opposed to just one corner. Is my 1.5 Ton jack safe for this method? Although nothing happened last night, I wonder if I'm putting more stress on the jack than it is rated for?


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don't do it. what I do: lift the rear jack point high enough to place jack stand under the front jack point. reverse for the rear.
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      11-16-2014, 09:16 AM   #22
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http://www.brunnhoelzl.com/warrior_jacks.html

I'd rather see you use a 3 ton jack in that picture
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