F30POST
F30POST
2012-2015 BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Today's Posts
BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > 2012-2019 BMW 3 and 4-Series Forums > General F30 Sedan / F32 Coupe / F36 Gran Coupe Forum > 335I xdrive vs M3 - handling performance and value ?
proTUNING Freaks
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-10-2014, 07:42 AM   #1
davidkawai
Private
32
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: EVO IX, M3 F80 MW/SO 6MT
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nyc

iTrader: (0)

Smile 335I xdrive vs M3 - handling performance and value ?

Hello guys,
I am new here, and planning to get a 335i xdrive later this year.
I have been driving my Evo IX in NYC for 7 years and in love with all wheel drive. our evo still work great, and driving it is alot of fun even in winter. I share car with my brother, so we are planning to get another car and hoping it will be useful and fun to drive for a long time
I am planning to get a 335I xdrive M sport. with all add on it comes to around 60-65k . compare to M3 70-75k . since my brother hate rear drive, and we both have been driving all wheel, knowing all wheel can handle winter/snow much better. in regard of performance, i see that some easy mod (JB4 BMW Performance Tuner) can boost 335i another 100HP , which already come close to stock M3 ? btw we dont go to race track but we do drive fast.
I would appreciate if anyone can give me some suggestions on these 2 cars ? handling, performance and value ? :/
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 07:50 AM   #2
300hp
Brigadier General
317
Rep
3,619
Posts

Drives: X5 & 335xi
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by emuleiii
Hello guys,
I am new here, and planning to get a 335i xdrive later this year.
I have been driving my Evo IX in NYC for 7 years and in love with all wheel drive. our evo still work great, and driving it is alot of fun even in winter. I share car with my brother, so we are planning to get another car and hoping it will be useful and fun to drive for a long time
I am planning to get a 335I xdrive M sport. with all add on it comes to around 60-65k . compare to M3 70-75k . since my brother hate rear drive, and we both have been driving all wheel, knowing all wheel can handle winter/snow much better. in regard of performance, i see that some easy mod (JB4 BMW Performance Tuner) can boost 335i another 100HP , which already come close to stock M3 ? btw we dont go to race track but we do drive fast.
I would appreciate if anyone can give me some suggestions on these 2 cars ? handling, performance and value ? :/
335i plus any mode, even all the way to 2000hp is still significantly inferior to the F80/2.
__________________
EBII 2014 335i xDrive
335HP, Sport AT, 19" Wheels, MPE, Prem, Tech, Cold, HK, Driver Assist & DH pkgs

Deep Sea Blue Metallic 2013 X5 35d Sport
Prem, Convenience, Cold and Premium Sound packages
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 09:21 AM   #3
nicknaz
Lieutenant General
nicknaz's Avatar
3187
Rep
10,509
Posts

Drives: C6Z
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NorCal

iTrader: (0)

mod your evo ix to trap 120mph and it will be able to take care of M3 from a roll or from a dig

Not sure I would bother modding a new N55 335 and would get an older N54 335 for modding purposes
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 10:02 AM   #4
marseille82
Captain
marseille82's Avatar
No_Country
390
Rep
777
Posts

Drives: 2022 X3 M40i
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: OH

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by emuleiii View Post
Hello guys,
I am new here, and planning to get a 335i xdrive later this year.
I have been driving my Evo IX in NYC for 7 years and in love with all wheel drive. our evo still work great, and driving it is alot of fun even in winter. I share car with my brother, so we are planning to get another car and hoping it will be useful and fun to drive for a long time
I am planning to get a 335I xdrive M sport. with all add on it comes to around 60-65k . compare to M3 70-75k . since my brother hate rear drive, and we both have been driving all wheel, knowing all wheel can handle winter/snow much better. in regard of performance, i see that some easy mod (JB4 BMW Performance Tuner) can boost 335i another 100HP , which already come close to stock M3 ? btw we dont go to race track but we do drive fast.
I would appreciate if anyone can give me some suggestions on these 2 cars ? handling, performance and value ? :/
Your best bet is to go test drive both cars and decide.
Answers from the forum will just confuse you even more.

With that said, if money is not an issue, buy the M3. Doesn't matter what you put in that 335, it will never match the M.

Then you might have problems with your brother, because you will not to let of the car for him to drive.
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 10:14 AM   #5
bmwperson
Second Lieutenant
29
Rep
209
Posts

Drives: 4wheels
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Pl

iTrader: (0)

I'm pretty happy with my 335xi, it handles decent but definitively drives different then all my previous RWD bmws. I think for how big the F30 is, it's a capable car.

I went through the same thing when I ordered my 335, keep in mind 60k gets you a loaded 335, 70k M3 is a very stripped down one. Maintenance and extended warranty also will be more, you can't get AWD for the F80 so winter performance will not be as good.

I found that the 335 is an awesome daily for me, it looks nice, drives decent, its comfortable as a daily, awd should be awesome for winter, Insurance was cheap, decent mpg, decent aftermarket.
__________________
--
1997 BMW M3 Single turbo 723whp GT42R
2000 BMW M5 - Daily
2014 BMW 335i xDrive 6spd loaded
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 12:55 PM   #6
auf Deutsch
Colonel
auf Deutsch's Avatar
United_States
1913
Rep
2,210
Posts

Drives: '17 jackrabbit on crystal meth
Join Date: Dec 2013
Location: Philly burbs

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2017 BMW M2  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by nicknaz View Post
mod your evo ix to trap 120mph and it will be able to take care of M3 from a roll or from a dig
Make that 123mph. A forum member has hit 122.
__________________
2017 BSM M2|6MT|Exec|black kidneys and gills|full alcantara wheel|CF spoiler|Dinan Stage 4|Dinan COI|Dinan free flow exhaust with resonator delete|Fabspeed sport cat DP|BMS clutch stop|465 bhp|4.75/5 stars

retired: 2014 435xi|MPPK|335 bhp|3/5 stars
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 01:27 PM   #7
rjpeaks
Lieutenant
rjpeaks's Avatar
United_States
14
Rep
577
Posts

Drives: F30 335i M-Sport 6pd
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Huntington Beach

iTrader: (0)

OP you want to go from a 7 year old evo to a 335 or M3. piggy bank must be bulging.

If you plan on driving either with the traction control turned off, you better practice up on your control.

Like some others have mentioned - i would drive both. with the traction control off, esp if you are used to driving with it off.
__________________
335I M-Sport 6spd EBII MPPK MPE DHP HK PDC ZTP ZPS ZPP ZDA ZPK 802.11ac ABC123
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 02:36 PM   #8
Babo335
Officer
7
Rep
95
Posts

Drives: 2014 335 Xdrive
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: New Jersey

iTrader: (0)

As some have already mentioned, if money is not an issue go with the M3 but the 335 XDrive is a great daily driver's car and good performance.
Appreciate 0
      09-10-2014, 07:52 PM   #9
nicknaz
Lieutenant General
nicknaz's Avatar
3187
Rep
10,509
Posts

Drives: C6Z
Join Date: May 2008
Location: NorCal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by auf Deutsche View Post
Make that 123mph. A forum member has hit 122.
my understanding is that trap was a VBOX iphone app reading, not from a time slip at a drag strip, and the owner was at sea level.

It will be interesting to see where in the range of 114-120 mph most owner's traps end up being. Hopefully it isn't 114. It would be annoying for F8X not to outrun a 7yr old lightly modded N54 335
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2014, 09:55 AM   #10
BruceOmega
Private First Class
24
Rep
193
Posts

Drives: 2013 335i xDrive Sportline
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Alexandria VA

iTrader: (0)

emuleiii,

Can't comment on the M3.

Regarding an F30 xDrive, most agree that you should get DHP for improved handling compared to a non-DHP xDrive. On my car, I recently added Dinan Shockware and that improved the handling over the stock DHP.

If you want to stay with AWD and a BMW car-
- The 6 series offers the same sport suspension with xDrive as with RWD, although its more expensive than an F30
- Looks like the M235i with xDrive has the same sport suspension as the RWD, although its a coupe rather than sedan

Good luck,
Bruce
__________________
2017 340i M-Sport, xDrive, Estoril, Adaptive M Suspension, 18" Staggered, Increased Top Speed Limiter, AT, Black Kidney Grilles, ZCW, ZDA
2011 X3 35i Sold
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2014, 10:18 AM   #11
ww-evo
New Member
3
Rep
13
Posts

Drives: 2013 335i
Join Date: Aug 2013
Location: SoCal

iTrader: (1)

If one of you really wants AWD for all year usability than the 335i xdrive is what you should get. If you can afford a M3 keep the evo and buy a 335xdrive, about the same money.
BTW, I own an Evo VIII (375awhp on e85, stoptech brakes, ohlins suspension, rcomps year round, etc) and a 335i rwd (base for max comfort). There is no comparison, 335I gets used at least 90% of the time on the street for comfort and conveniences, evo only sees use when it's been a while since I drove it or preferably am going to the track. That said I contemplate parting with the evo and replacing it with an M3 or C7 vette frequently, but have not been able to do it yet. MODDED Evo is easier on the pocket and faster on the racetrack (in my hands) than either of the cars I'm contemplating, but the all around rawness of the car on the street is tiring when I'm so use to the 335I comfort (growing up too, eco styling does make everyone an their mother want to race you). M3 or C7 would be fast on track and more streetable rest of the time (looks more mature too). But I live in California and have no snow to contend with, if I had snow I'd buy another awd vehicle if it was for year round use, S4 maybe?
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2014, 03:52 PM   #12
MontrealBMW
New Member
1
Rep
14
Posts

Drives: BMW 335i
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Montreal

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by emuleiii View Post
Hello guys,
I am new here, and planning to get a 335i xdrive later this year.
I have been driving my Evo IX in NYC for 7 years and in love with all wheel drive. our evo still work great, and driving it is alot of fun even in winter. I share car with my brother, so we are planning to get another car and hoping it will be useful and fun to drive for a long time
I am planning to get a 335I xdrive M sport. with all add on it comes to around 60-65k . compare to M3 70-75k . since my brother hate rear drive, and we both have been driving all wheel, knowing all wheel can handle winter/snow much better. in regard of performance, i see that some easy mod (JB4 BMW Performance Tuner) can boost 335i another 100HP , which already come close to stock M3 ? btw we dont go to race track but we do drive fast.
I would appreciate if anyone can give me some suggestions on these 2 cars ? handling, performance and value ? :/
I have a 2012 335i, but came from an EVO X, and a 2006 STi before that. Here's my take on it:

Traded in my EVO after warranty expired and was still holding its value (Low Mileage), plus got a great deal on the 335i. Part of me regrets the move, as I can not find the same joy in the 335i. DD/Comfort/Engine is all for the 335, but for sheer driving pleasure (Steering/Handling/Brakes), the EVO was unmatched.

Seeing that you keep your cars for a long time, and that you can afford an F80, I say go for that. My opinion is that you'll be relatively disappointed by the 335i-X.

Try before you buy and good luck.
Appreciate 0
      09-11-2014, 11:15 PM   #13
davidkawai
Private
32
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: EVO IX, M3 F80 MW/SO 6MT
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: nyc

iTrader: (0)

Thank you all for the comments, i will go to bmw showroom to check out the M3 and 335
Appreciate 0
      09-12-2014, 12:46 AM   #14
newoldbeemer
Major
United_States
266
Rep
1,093
Posts

Drives: 2012 E92 328i
Join Date: May 2013
Location: San Jose

iTrader: (0)

Pick the RWD for a better comparison..
Appreciate 0
      09-15-2014, 07:03 PM   #15
x3no
Registered
x3no's Avatar
United_States
0
Rep
3
Posts

Drives: 2014 335i M Sport
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: MD

iTrader: (0)

Love my 335i M sport. Great daily drive. I too was considering getting the M3, but I could get a very nice 335i M Sport for the same price as a used 30K mileage 2011 M3. Also the 335i gets much better gas mileage if that matters.

Also depends on what you want the car for.. You wanna bang and go fast and hit it hard a lot and can afford it. M3 is your best bet. You want a great driving, better MPG, still sweet, sporty car.. the 335 will do the job just fine and it is fun to drive!

My opinion a bit biased, but I don't regret my decision at all, even after driving both cars back to back.

Good luck!
__________________
2014 F30 335i M Sport - Black Sapphire Metallic
Appreciate 0
      09-15-2014, 08:33 PM   #16
bmwauug
Major
249
Rep
1,051
Posts

Drives: 2023 X5MC
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Almost There

iTrader: (0)

335 is no slouch - it's a lot of fun to drive and the styling is fun too.

That said M3 is in a different class. I have talked to a few owners and the 2015 M3s seem to be very nice as a DD

Good luck!
__________________
2023 X5MC | Donington Grey | Black
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:35 AM.




f30post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST