[Orb]

Part 1:

I meet up with another forum member to do dyno this morning. We both have a step car. In short, the only difference is mine is E92 and his is E90 which both have stock engines other than the tunes and 94oct gas from Chevron.

I’m writing up the details right now but the Dynojet we did use reported very low number and was using beta Dynojet software. Therefore we can only compare the data of the runs which were consistent for both vehicles.

The PROcede was the latest firmware and map and was set at 94%. My car has about 50 miles on it since the Dinan flash.

The delta WHP: 19
The delta WTQ: 9

The plot are a lot different form each other and the PROcede v2 does makes more power as expected. I thought the Dinan flash would far less torque than the PROcede v2.

I’m rushing this out a bit so don’t make any assumption yet and give me a chance to get the data in presentable form. I have to input the data in excel since the scale is all screwed up and take picture of the actual runs.

I spoke with Shiv as well and I agree with him the data from this Dynojet is not typical and so don’t make you purchasing judgment on any of this as at best we getting a comparison and the number don’t mean anything.

Okay I getting to it and will update this post in few hours with all the data.

Part 2:


The Dynojet that was used in these dyno produced result less than comparative to other Dynojet. We had hard time convincing the owner to set the CF: STD and not CF:SAE which took about 20 minutes. The A/F ratio out was not accurate and my car got some a reading but Badass335 couldn’t obtain one so we shall dismiss it as junk. The runs we did were fairly close and both had about the same variances within each run so it was consistent. One my 2nd run the operator hit the kick down so it was deleted. Also note the temperature and humidity was all over the place as we were partly inside a heated area and partly outside. The fan used was a bit of joke but lucky it wasn’t a big factor for all our runs especially since baddass335 has no oil cooler.

Cars tested:

E92 335i Coupe (Step): Stock engine with Dinan flash and new stock air filter. Gas 94oct.
E90 335i Sudan (Step): Stock engine with PROcede v2 @ 94% and no oil cooler. Gas 94oct.

Badass335 had so nice light wheels but this was the only variance as they were both 19”.

Results:

1. Picture 1: Dinan Flash best run; WHP: 280.88; WTQ: 316.78
2. Picture 2: PROcede v2 best run; WHP 298.78; WTQ: 325.12
3. Picture 3: Dinan graph of Hp & Torque vs RPM.

Delta WHP: 17.90
Delta WTQ: 8.34

We were hoping for something to correlate better with other dyno but at least we show a difference between the two tunes and I think it safe to say the Dinan tune is not far from what they stated.

Part 3:

To put the data into a more meaningful comparison, it is possible to scale with these number with a comparative known number that Shiv has provided (353 WHP for v2) given the conditions and 94oct.

The percentage of increase is 1.181% and 2% increase for manual given gear ratios so 1% reduction.

The number below would reflect a typical Dynojet dyno.

PROcede V2 – Step

• WHP 353.00
• WTQ 383.96

PROcede v2 – Manual

• WHP 359.00
• WTQ 391.63

Dinan Flash – Step

• WHP 331.71
• WTQ 374.11

Dinan Flash – Manual

• WHP 338.34
• WTQ 381.59

Orb

[RiXst3r]

interesting

If I ended up with dyno sheets that looked like that, I would ask for my money back... what the heck is with the scaling on that graph??

Next time bring a thumb drive with you, and take home the .drf files from the run, then you can print your own graphs from the free dynojet viewer software... thats what I did... then you can mess with STD, SAE, etc on your own time.

[orientblue3]

So Procede is +19/+9 over Dinan?

[O-cha]

You mean 2.0.2 with the new firmware? That sounds about right since dinan is expected to be about 330 and procede about 350.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by O-cha

You mean 2.0.2 with the new firmware? That sounds about right since dinan is expected to be about 330 and procede about 350.

Yes, he has the lastest frimware and map and is at 94% setting

Orb

[orientblue3]

That's not a bad compromise (hp/tq wise) to retain your warranty.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by orientblue3

So Procede is +19/+9 over Dinan?

I added the info as i thought it was a given that v2 would be more.

Orb

[slubu]

Which has more power under 5k if that is something you can tell from the graphs...

[O-cha]

Originally Posted by Orb

Yes, he has the lastest frimware and map and is at 94% setting

Orb

I don't mean to be ungrateful but please tell me you guys logged boost. I will cry if you did not.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by O-cha

I don't mean to be ungrateful but please tell me you guys logged boost. I will cry if you did not.

No....it doesn't matter. it is something that is know anyways.


Orb

[Driver72]

If the PROcede v2.0.2 made
+19 rwhp
+9 rwtq

more than the Dinan flash, then as I suspected and stated, the Dinan flash is on par with v1.47 levels of power up top, but about 10-12 rwtq less below 3500 rpms.

Thanks Orb for the comparo.

[sflgator]

So, Shadyg's Dinan 335i dyno'd (on a Mustang Dyno) at 331WHP / 366 lb.-ft. RWTQ on 93 octane; it will be interesting to see Orb's Dinan 335i dyno as well.

[Lane]

How much would have been the 2.0.2 default settings whp ? wtq?

[scalbert]

Looking forward to seeing the charts.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Lane

How much would have been the 2.0.2 default settings whp ? wtq?

If you are asking what the default settings are on the v2.0.2 it's 90.1xxx%

This guy had his set for 94% across the board, which is decent bump up in power.
But I'd be willing to bet, since he was on 94 Octane, he could get away with setting his settings to 95% and still be well within the range of safe with that octane grade.
That extra 1% would probably add another 2-4 rwhp and rwtq to what he got on 94% settings.

[radgator1]

Is anyone running V2 at 94% accross the board full time, and if so are you seeing any CEL's? I really have no clue what most V2 owners are doing but 94% ATB sounds pretty high

[Mr. 5]

It would be nice to see the graphs together so we could see the deltas throughtout the curve instead of just the peak.

Orb, could you get access to this and post it?
It would be really great to see.
Thanks!

EDIT,
I just read your whole post and I look forward to seeing the results.
I personaly don't care about how high the numbers are, but it would be great to see the delta throught the powerband.

[BMW_TT]

It looks like the Dinan tune is no joke. Thanks for doing this test for the community.

[Spool]

Now we just need a 40-120 highway pull between the two cars...

[sajakh]

Originally Posted by radgator1

Is anyone running V2 at 94% accross the board full time, and if so are you seeing any CEL's? I really have no clue what most V2 owners are doing but 94% ATB sounds pretty high

Ran 94% on 93 octane for the older 2.0.2 map(AT) and the most current one with firmware upgrade. NO CEL, limps, etc. Definitely feel better tq in lower rpm with smooth power delivery in latest map.

[OpenFlash]

Hi guys,
The difference is 19whp on that dyno. This is approx 7% more power. On a normal Dynojet, i'd guess that we would have seen Orb's car around 330whp. The v2's 7% advantage would put it at 353whp which is right in line with the max power we see with the factory airbox in place. Expect to see this 20-25whp difference between the two tunes all things equal.

Again, this is under pretty extreme conditions (0 deg F and with 94oct). It'll be interesting to see more results as they come in. As well as how each system responds to additional modifications (v2 gains 20whp with an intake upgrade ) Also remember that the v2.0.2 is can make another 5-10whp by just tweaking the user TQ curve. More on that next week.

Cheers,
shiv

[down4it]

Originally Posted by BMW_TT

It looks like the Dinan tune is no joke. Thanks for doing this test for the community.

I dont know who would think Dinan is a joke, they have a reputation to reserve and they arent gonna release a tune that is too weak...

On the other hand when Shiv releases 2.0.3 that is mod specific and we start seeing 100oct-109oct maps with launch control and other goodies the Dinan tune will still be the same old tune and Procede cars will be pushing over 400whp and 500wtq... That will make the difference between the 2 tunes...