[AU335]

Just got back from the Dyno. I am in a hurry right now, so i can post the full review/results until later when i have more time.

Here are the Overall run numbers: DynoJet SAE Numbers*** All runs were on 93oct. 2nd Cat Deletes, and JB2H

Run 1: with ITG Filter - 318whp/348wtq
Run 2: with ITG Filter - 312whp/348.6wtq
Run 3: Stock Filter/Open Box - 324.7whp/345.8wtq
Run 4: ITG Filter/Open Box - 324.1whp/346.3wtq
Run 5: Stock Filter/Closed Box - 326whp/354wtq


Run 1: with ITG Filter - 318whp/348wtq




Run 2: with ITG Filter - 312whp/348.6wtq




Run 3: Stock Filter/Open Box - 324.7whp/345.8wtq




Run 4: ITG Filter/Open Box - 324.1whp/346.3wtq




Run 5: Stock Filter/Closed Box - 326whp/354wtq <-- Best Run with stock filter
















Videos are on there way!!

[jpsimon]

stock filter/closed box = more power than an aftermarket ITG filter

Way to engineer that there filter ITG!

[Terry335]

Results look great! I wonder if the car needed a little time to adapt to the changes? Email me over the .drf files if you have them for analysis.

[1clean335i]

interesting numbers with the stock/itg filter... strange

[AU335]

Originally Posted by 1clean335i

interesting numbers with the stock/itg filter... strange

definitely strange

**Pics and Dyno Charts Added!!**

[Terry335]

Hi Koy, graphs look great! 326 SAE is probably 33x STD, very stout for the JB2H!

[AU335]

Originally Posted by Terry335

Hi Koy, graphs look great! 326 SAE is probably 33x STD, very stout for the JB2H!

Thanks, yeah its running really strong. Hopefully Naseem got around to Dyno his today. He arrived right after i left. Then we will have a good comparision/graphs for the "Hot pill".

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by AU335

Thanks, yeah its running really strong. Hopefully Naseem got around to Dyno his today. He arrived right after i left. Then we will have a good comparision/graphs for the "Hot pill".

I'm sure they screwed it up, most shops don't know how to dyno an auto. See if they can email you the .drf files, or what I always do is bring a USB key to bring the files home with me. I'm curious what your numbers look like in STD.

[AU335]

Originally Posted by Terry335

I'm sure they screwed it up, most shops don't know how to dyno an auto. See if they can email you the .drf files, or what I always do is bring a USB key to bring the files home with me. I'm curious what your numbers look like in STD.

Sure thing, ill contact them tomorrow and see what they can do. I might just get them to email you directly if thats okay. I am going on vacation for a week so i wont be able to check my email regularly.

FWIW, what do you expect/guess the STD numbers to be? just wondering

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by AU335

Sure thing, ill contact them tomorrow and see what they can do. I might just get them to email you directly if thats okay. I am going on vacation for a week so i wont be able to check my email regularly.

FWIW, what do you expect/guess the STD numbers to be? just wondering

I would guess 7-8rwhp higher... Direct email is fine!

[Trill335]

I'm going to try and hit the dyno again today...my numbers were lower on the Hotpill and 93 octane. I think I made 330 rwhp on the R switch w/ 96 Oct. I left my dyno graphs in Blakes toolbox! I have to go back today to get one of the Mustangs tuned on Nitrous. Should be interesting.

[Driver72]

I'm just wondering if all the filter swapping with open and closed air box lid fudged the numbers.

You should of just swapped the filters and left the lid closed on all the runs.
The ECU was probably so confused with the amount of air coming in from having the lid on, then off, then put back on.
It doesn't make sense that your highest run would be with the stock filter and the lid on.
And it be significantly higher than the first runs with the lid on, and even higher than the runs with the lid off, and measurably more torque too.

I personally think your ECU was drunk by the last run.

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by Trill335

I'm going to try and hit the dyno again today...my numbers were lower on the Hotpill and 93 octane. I think I made 330 rwhp on the R switch w/ 96 Oct. I left my dyno graphs in Blakes toolbox! I have to go back today to get one of the Mustangs tuned on Nitrous. Should be interesting.

To give you a reference most autos seem to dyno ~345 STD with the R on 96 octane (otherwise stock). It takes a few pulls for the car to adapt to the higher octane and R so perhaps there wasn't enough learn time there.

Bring a USB key and copy your .drf dyno files to it so I can check out the runs!

[sflgator]

Very interesting dynos...thanks. Now I know why I just ordered the BMC Air Filter to replace my ITG Air Filter. Or maybe I should just put my oem stock paper air filter back in? Ha ha.

btw -- congrats...those dyno numbers are very decent; similar to the PROcede v1.47 with a little less RWTQ.

[AU335]

Originally Posted by Driver72

I'm just wondering if all the filter swapping with open and closed air box lid fudged the numbers.

You should of just swapped the filters and left the lid closed on all the runs.
The ECU was probably so confused with the amount of air coming in from having the lid on, then off, then put back on.
It doesn't make sense that your highest run would be with the stock filter and the lid on.
And it be significantly higher than the first runs with the lid on, and even higher than the runs with the lid off, and measurably more torque too.

I personally think your ECU was drunk by the last run.

I agree with you! When you say numbers are fudged, do you mean they are low or too high or that the comparison between the filters is messed up. I think I'll go back and re dyno once I get the R switch. Also, it wierd b/c every run except run2 got increasing higher numbers. No matter the situation with the filter and air box. I think the numbers are pretty good still.

[phantom330]

So are you gonna stick with the stock filter now as a result or stay with the IPG?

[AU335]

Originally Posted by phantom330

So are you gonna stick with the stock filter now as a result or stay with the IPG?

Stock filter for now. I am definitely not saying the ITG filter doesn't perform well, but just since the recent dyno's I'm going to stick with the stock and maybe even try out the BMC filter.

[radgator1]

Great numbers!! Car looks real strong. On the filter issue, it seems to me the only meaningfull measure would be flow accross the filter fitted in a stock box simulator. I know streamline did this type testing so at least you knew the product flowed with less restriction than the stock filter. Whether or not that lead to measurable gains would be unclear. Gains or losses are so small that they overlap the standard deviation normally seen from run to run. I believe one member ran at the track with the stock filter and then with no filter and the trap speeds were unchanged

On an aside, Terry, is it possible to come up with a way to run the H serially with the R switch so that it would only be on when the switch was on, or would that require making a different R switch with the extra .5 PSI boost?

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by radgator1

Great numbers!! Car looks real strong. On the filter issue, it seems to me the only meaningfull measure would be flow accross the filter fitted in a stock box simulator. I know streamline did this type testing so at least you knew the product flowed with less restriction than the stock filter. Whether or not that lead to measurable gains would be unclear. Gains or losses are so small that they overlap the standard deviation normally seen from run to run. I believe one member ran at the track with the stock filter and then with no filter and the trap speeds were unchanged

On an aside, Terry, is it possible to come up with a way to run the H serially with the R switch so that it would only be on when the switch was on, or would that require making a different R switch with the extra .5 PSI boost?

It's certainly possible.. after a little more H testing I'll crunch the numbers and see if there would be much demand for such a device. It would great for 91 octane guys who already run the R.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by AU335

I agree with you! When you say numbers are fudged, do you mean they are low or too high or that the comparison between the filters is messed up. I think I'll go back and re dyno once I get the R switch. Also, it wierd b/c every run except run2 got increasing higher numbers. No matter the situation with the filter and air box. I think the numbers are pretty good still.

I mean I think the comparison between the filters is messed up.
If you do this test again, do it with all the filters, but always have the lid on.

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by Terry335

It's certainly possible.. after a little more H testing I'll crunch the numbers and see if there would be much demand for such a device. It would great for 91 octane guys who already run the R.

Exactly I'm wondering if I can just plug it into one of the wires upstream from the switch and wham! another half PSI boost next time I go to Irwindale.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by sflgator

btw -- congrats...those dyno numbers are very decent; similar to the PROcede v1.47 with a little less RWTQ.

Yeah, pretty close, but maybe a bit lower hp too.

I did about 332 rwhp and 366 rwtq on v1.47 with the stock air filter and lid closed, but on a slightly lower octane (92) and with my 2nd cats still in place.
With the K&N drop in it was 336 rwhp and 368 rwtq.

But I agree with Terry, had he been in STD mode, he probably would of seen around 332-334 rwhp and 355-358 rwtq.