[Orb]

Installation:

The installation took just under two hours since this was the dealers first 335i flash so they took the extra time to do a road test and a post diagnostics to see if any codes were thrown…no problems. The cost was 2000.00 + 1 hour labor. They did reset adaptation on the transmission and other devices. The software does take several miles to run at its full potential just like the PROcede and they should tell you just like the Dinan rep told me at the dealership.

Questions:

I asked a few questions you all wanted know:

1. If a BMW dealer reloads software, due to warranty reasons, to a new revision then the Diana flash will be reinstalled at no charge. There is no limit to the install but it is only covered over the four year warranty. After the warranty period the cost is 1 hour labor. If you have the BMW software load at another dealer then no problem it is still free as long as you show the paper work.
2. The software is guaranteed to be upwards compatible and new revision of the Diana are made available quickly when issue due occur. In short, they test new version of BMW software for compatibility.
3. You bought software and it is locked to you vehicle. You are entitled to equivalent upgrade at your expense (1 hour labor) or when there is a know issue much the same way as you get BMW upgrades so it free if there problem and you pay because you just want it.
4. The software can be transferred if the vehicle is written off but not when you sell it.
5. Warranty: It should be transparent to the end user. BMW determine liability apparently and charges Dinan back when they are liable. The warranty does cover consequential damage so this is broad scope. This is the way it going to work for me.

Setup:

E92 335i: Quaife LSD, H&R sway bars, Koni FSD and Advan sport tires 265/30x19 & 235/35x19. DTC button pushed once.

Road test:

The throttle response has been changed significantly from the stock configuration. There is a considerable amount of power made starting at 1/3 to ½ throttle position unlike the stock setup. It hard to describe but it just feel a lot better than stock and just responds instantly when your off on the throttle rapidly. I guess it feels like a normally aspirated car for response now (but with more power) when I think about it.

The power from 1000 to 2500 RPM is more than stock but it is a lot smoother and the latency feel of turbo lag is now non existent. From 3000 RPM the power start hitting hard (push in the seat) but very linear and smooth all the way 4300 then the power starts rushing fairly hard as the RPM head towards read line which happens extremely fast. The car is deceptively quick and feels smooth but with a good rush that keep getting stronger all the way to redline. I expect the car might fall off around 6000 RPM but my by dyno butt say it pulling strong to redline. Above 5000 RPM the car hits redline very quickly, with anything more than half throttle, so it is difficult to tell if the power is falling off. From 5000 RPM to redline, the car feels completely different than a stock car. Did I mention what it felt like at 4300 RPM…. pulls very strong and smooth…. sticks in your mind how rapid thing happen after hitting this RPM.

I had lot fun in the rain today. I now realize that more power means a lot more yaw with DTC pushed once! The overall power delivery is really good and for lack of better word just fun. By the end the day I had complete control of my drift especially down low in the power band which can be hard to modulate at times with the stock setup. The last few straight line runs got easier to modulate were I barley had traction control cutting in. It is fairly evident that if you punch it blindly without modulating throttle then you loss traction at 3000 RPM and at 4500 RPM followed by a big rush of forward motion.

The above is just my first impression but so far and I am very happy about trading the PROcede for the Dinan Flash. No errors code just fun the way it should be.

More later.

Orb

thanks for the review

did you have V2? or did you go from 1.47?

[kenni243]

Nice!

So how is it compare to Procede?

[Orb]

Originally Posted by that guy nico

thanks for the review

did you have V2? or did you go from 1.47?

I had theProcede v1 + v2 and never installed it which sat on my desk for months collecting dust. It just wasn't stable enough for me and was banking on Shiv direction of stablity which hasn't happen yet. Honestly, I don't want to be a beta tester. I do a lot testing all day as it is.

Orb

[Mikes12985]

Originally Posted by Orb

I had theProcede v1 + v2 and never installed it which sat on my desk for months collecting dust. It just wasn't stable enough for me and was banking on Shiv direction of stablity which hasn't happen yet. Honestly, I don't want to be a beta tester. I do a lot testing all day as it is.

Orb

Power wise whats the difference from what you can feel? Thanks, Mike.

[stressdoc]

Nice review, sounds great!

[Orb]

Originally Posted by Mikes12985

Power wise whats the difference from what you can feel? Thanks, Mike.

Part thorttle and mid range pulls like hell compared to stock. I need more time with in dry weather to say anything more.

Orb

[vase330]

So do tell: Is the Dinan close to V1 or not? Or was your V1 just sitting your desk too.

[slubu]

What about power now versus w/ procede?

[san~man]

I think he said both were uninstalled

[SROC3]

Thank god........a re-flash....w/ a warranty.....good power....and NO ERROR CODES FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!

I hope when i try this on my car the results will be the same ORB you are quite the respected individual on this forum for giving very unbiased opinions. To know you got this tune and had positive results surely makes a great case for Dinan

I'M SOLD!!!

[jadeddjay]

so if i got the dinan reflash, does that limit me to only authorized dinan dealers?

[M4TW]

Orb did you scoot across the border to get this done, because I thought the CAN price was $2400.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by Sparkplug

Orb did you scoot across the border to get this done, because I thought the CAN price was $2400.

That what it cost after 1 hour labor and taxes.

The cost is 2000 CAN for the software.

No, I got it done by a local dealer in Richmond. They Dinan dealers have the code.

Orb

[BoostedBMW]

Nice review... it sounds like a solid tune.

[x26]

Good Review...
Waiting for more...

[purplewidow]

Orb

that is exactly what i thought i had more time today and the throttle response is just so smooth and responsive...so much more over stock....i am just so impressed with it...people can talk numbers all they want but the overall quality is just phenominal!!!! i love how smooth and instant the throttle is now i just can't get enough. i need an lsd though i broke traction going 85mph today!!!!!definitely in love with the tune...i noticed through traffic again it was much improved over stock...it wasn't nearly as jerky as in stock form no matter what mode(manual,DS,D)they were all much improved. being in Chicago with all the traffic that is a very very good thing!!!

Glad to here you love it Orb i love mine too!!!!

[M4TW]

Wow. Another question .... remember when you had it it put in and then you were driving it and going fast and stuff???? .... anyway that was pretty awesome. Sorry, I watched a Chris Farley special recently.

Seriously, I'm pretty much sold on this but thought I'd wait until spring because I got all the power I can use here on the frozen plains. But now I am wondering if the warranty tracks what's left on you BMW warranty, or do you get a fresh set of downs so to speak? If the former, I might get a better value out it installing it ASAP as I typically run out of years way before I run out of miles on my car warranties. If this is the case (it not outliving the BMW warranty), this would be the difference between a 3 year warranty vs. a 3.5 year warranty if I wait until spring.

[Orb]

Originally Posted by SROC3

Thank god........a re-flash....w/ a warranty.....good power....and NO ERROR CODES FOR GOD'S SAKE!!!!!

I hope when i try this on my car the results will be the same ORB you are quite the respected individual on this forum for giving very unbiased opinions. To know you got this tune and had positive results surely makes a great case for Dinan

I'M SOLD!!!

I add more to this once i get a chance drive in drier weather. Really need to have some more time 2/3 to full throttle without breaking traction. I’m going to my favorite test road so I can get up 200 km/hr on Thursday and dyno the next if I can get it worked out.

At least this was painless to do.

Orb

[Orb]

Originally Posted by purplewidow

Orb

that is exactly what i thought i had more time today and the throttle response is just so smooth and responsive...so much more over stock....i am just so impressed with it...people can talk numbers all they want but the overall quality is just phenominal!!!! i love how smooth and instant the throttle is now i just can't get enough. i need an lsd though i broke traction going 85mph today!!!!!definitely in love with the tune...i noticed through traffic again it was much improved over stock...it wasn't nearly as jerky as in stock form no matter what mode(manual,DS,D)they were all much improved. being in Chicago with all the traffic that is a very very good thing!!!

Glad to here you love it Orb i love mine too!!!!

I had a hell of a time with the LSD in the rain today but I did get the hang of it quickly. It was a good test as it is very hard to modulate variable power delivery with high latency throttle response. I not sure I’m as excited as you but certainly had a grin on face pulling into the garage!

Orb

[stillclaimndp]

Originally Posted by Orb

I had a hell of a time with the LSD in the rain today but I did get the hang of it quickly. It was a good test as it very hard to modulate variable power delivery with high latency throttle response. I not sure I’m as excited as you but certainly had a grin on face pulling into the garage!

Orb

you know what would be really interesting? I want to know if a dinan flash car is faster than an 08 m3... that would really be a fun comparison because it would really make bmw have to question the 15k+ price difference!

[Lazzer]

Originally Posted by Orb

That what it cost after 1 hour labor and taxes.

The cost is 2000 CAN for the software.

No, I got it done by a local dealer in Richmond. They Dinan dealers have the code.

Orb

Did you go to Auto West in richmond? So it was $2000CDN + install?

On another note where did you get your Quaife installed and how much did they charge you?