[F30AM]

Good & honest comparison.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x23...s-on-cars_auto

[Dave_3]

That's been ripped from their subscription channel - Drive +.

Pity, as they will lose any revenue when it is pirated so quickly.

D.

[NISFAN]

As good as the Golf R is, it would grow old very quickly with me. The 235i is much more 'my kinda car'.

[F30AM]

Both excellent cars.

The M235i tested had a few extra add-ons like the LSD, greater BHP, Sport Exhausts etc than a standard M235i. So very much more expensive than the Golf R. But the Golf R is the 'better car' with better brakes, chassis, ride and with a more effective engine. BMW has uncorrupted steering being RWD.

For my purposes, the Golf R is the better car. ETTO.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by F30AM

Both excellent cars.

The M235i tested had a few extra add-ons like the LSD, greater BHP, Sport Exhausts etc than a standard M235i. So very much more expensive than the Golf R. But the Golf R is the 'better car' with better brakes, chassis, ride and with a more effective engine. BMW has uncorrupted steering being RWD.

For my purposes, the Golf R is the better car. ETTO.

I don't doubt the G R being better for you.

But doing 3k miles in 18 months, surely a G-Wizz is even better?

[dopper99]

The Golf still looks bland for the kind of car it is. Apart from the daft (disproportionate) exhausts of course.

Seems like they did a tremendous job mechanically, then run out of budget for styling.

[Nick the Greek]

I wouldn't take much notice of what Chris Harris says.
The guy is a number one divot......

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by Nick the Greek

I wouldn't take much notice of what Chris Harris says.
The guy is a number one divot......

Wha-aaaaa-aaaaa-aaaaaaaaaaaat?

[F30AM]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

I don't doubt the G R being better for you.

But doing 3k miles in 18 months, surely a G-Wizz is even better?

Bloody cheek!

I'll have you know that I did 1000 miles in my F30 this month alone and the month is not over yet! So I am now piling on the miles.

Maybe I'll keep the F30. Then, I'll have a true Superman combo, a Blue BMW and a Red R!

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by dopper99

The Golf still looks bland for the kind of car it is. Apart from the daft (disproportionate) exhausts of course.

Seems like they did a tremendous job mechanically, then run out of budget for styling.

This is so true, in fact I think the GTi looks more overtly sporty than the R.

[F30AM]

Originally Posted by dopper99

The Golf still looks bland for the kind of car it is. Apart from the daft (disproportionate) exhausts of course.

Originally Posted by NISFAN

This is so true, in fact I think the GTi looks more overtly sporty than the R.

Sorry, honey bunnies, but you are both talking rubbish.

[nas80]

because the Golf R holds its value so well, even better then the GTD or the GTI, with the discount on drive the deal it comes out at £320 a month!! thats so bloody cheap!

its 26K when you take the DTD discount off, after 3 years its got a GMFV of over 18K, it only loses 8k in 3 years!!!

Its also a lot better looking then the M235i - and will cost much much less.

[....,,,,..,,..]

Originally Posted by NISFAN

This is so true, in fact I think the GTi looks more overtly sporty than the R.

This is what will end up with.





Back to the 235i, we were at Sytner BMW the other day, wife had decent look around / tryout of 235i and a 225.

She definitely likes the 235, now got to look at selling my soul and wonder just how long they (330/235) would stay on the drive.

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by F30AM

Sorry, honey bunnies, but you are both talking rubbish.

No we are not.

Anyway, you only ordered because it was cheap. Then you decided you liked it and not shut up about it since.

[nas80]

Duration: 24 months
Average miles per year: 10,000
Deposit: £4,755.50
23 monthly payments of: £328.24
Retailer cash price: £30,555.00
Acceptance fee £125.00
Optional final payment: £21,363.30
Option to purchase fee: ** £60.00
Total amount payable: £33,728.32
Total amount of credit: £25,799.50
Excess mileage (per mile): *** 6.0p
Representative APR: 6.9% APR
Rate of interest: 6.51% fixed




why the frig did I buy the 335d?

[F30AM]

Brilliant residuals, brilliant to drive and own, dirt cheap to lease, 4WD and will piss on the M235i in the wet as well as the dry and when you see one 'in the flesh' you'll love it to bits. Sorry guys, accept it, BMW can be trumped and trumped with a vengeance.

And BTW, I did not make negative comments about the BMW to start with.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by F30AM

Sorry, honey bunnies, but you are both talking rubbish.

Hmmmm, with GTi you get RED stripe, A8 esque bumper strakes, and sporty hexagon grille, little splitters on the edge of bumper, black side skirt trim.

Golf R you get 1.6 Tsi features (silver stripe), although it does have the (copied from Audi) Silver wing mirrors.

[F30AM]

Originally Posted by nas80

Duration: 24 months
Average miles per year: 10,000
Deposit: £4,755.50
23 monthly payments of: £328.24
Retailer cash price: £30,555.00
Acceptance fee £125.00
Optional final payment: £21,363.30
Option to purchase fee: ** £60.00
Total amount payable: £33,728.32
Total amount of credit: £25,799.50
Excess mileage (per mile): *** 6.0p
Representative APR: 6.9% APR
Rate of interest: 6.51% fixed

why the frig did I buy the 335d?

Because the 3 Series are much better than a 2 Series and definitely a 1 Series, you need the space (do you?) and you are a badge snob as much as I was.

For a person like me, who likes a bit of speed, no more kids to kart around, low mileage, needs a space efficient car with 4 doors, living in Central London, the R is a no brainer. No available BMW fits the bill as well for me. As for the equivalent Audis and Mercs, they are fugly and horrid to drive in comparison. Oh, and the 1 Series is beyond help even from the best cosmetic car surgeon.

Is not the Excess mileage (per mile): *** 6.0p, truly a gift from Heaven?

[F30AM]

I think @NISFAN likes wearing lipstick!

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by F30AM

Because the 3 Series are much better than a 2 Series and definitely a 1 Series, you need the space (do you?) and you are a badge snob as much as I was.

For a person like me, who likes a bit of speed, no more kids to kart around, low mileage, needs a space efficient car with 4 doors, living in Central London, the R is a no brainer. No available BMW fits the bill as well for me. As for the equivalent Audis and Mercs, they are fugly and horrid to drive in comparison. Oh, and the 1 Series is beyond help even from the best cosmetic car surgeon.

Is not the Excess mileage (per mile): *** 6.0p, truly a gift from Heaven?

I can explain the 6p per mile thing.....

The lease company know that your VW will be in the dealership service department for some time during the lease, not clocking up mileage, so a safe bet.

[NISFAN]

Originally Posted by F30AM

I think @NISFAN likes wearing lipstick!

I Like my Girlfriends wearing lipstick........for sure

[dopper99]

Originally Posted by F30AM

And BTW, I did not make negative comments about the BMW to start with.

Yes but we argue the toss about the 3 series, petrol vs diesel, sdrive vs xdrive, adaptive vs passive suspenion and god knows what else.
So when you come on here talking about another marque and how good it is, what do you expect?

Originally Posted by F30AM

......and you are a badge snob as much as I was.

But you'll be driving a Volkswagen, and thats not so special, is it.