Tune Developers: Latest BMW progman vs your tunes

Ander · 12-17-2007, 09:46 AM

Piggyback Tune Developers:

Read recently that latest Progman changes ecu behavior. How does that impact our piggybacks:

Procede 1.4x?
Procede 2.x?
Juiceboxes?
Helix?
etc.

I'm up for progman update this week...running Procede v2.0.2 mt.

BoostedE90 · 12-17-2007, 10:14 AM

Just received my '08 and i was thinking the same thing. I know Shiv was looking for an '08 to test with. Wonder how that worked out?

e.n335 · 12-17-2007, 10:17 AM

Good question. If it's worth to update the ECU I would do.

BoostedBMW · 12-17-2007, 10:38 AM

*subscribing*

I'm interested to hear some info on this...

gobo335i · 12-17-2007, 10:45 AM

I NEED to know the story with software updates....I have the 1.47 out for a progman upgrade this week! I don't want issues when I put 2.02 back in! Someone enlighten us please!

Terry335 · 12-17-2007, 11:18 AM

No issues with the JB1 or JB2, although R users have reported a 20 second CEL if they leave the switch on overnight. The fix right now is to turn the switch off when you're done for the night.

v2bling · 12-17-2007, 11:21 AM

Freaking Genius

Are you referring to that progman 27 update?

e.n335 · 12-17-2007, 01:05 PM

Terry gets 100 scores because he was the only tune developer answering the question

Thank you.

Terry335 · 12-17-2007, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by e.n335

Terry gets 100 scores because he was the only tune developer answering the question

Thank you.

I aim to please.

The main headache with these updates is BMW is making the plausibility tests tighter and tighter. I'm not sure if its meant to give aftermarket guys a hard time, or if there are serious concerns in the engine they want to head off earlier. Probably the latter.

sdwilly · 12-17-2007, 01:25 PM

Currently running 27.2 and V2.02 so far no issues (Did just put it back in on Sunday and driving in rush hour doesn't really give the chance for a lot of WOT time).

-Ryan- · 12-17-2007, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by sdwilly

Currently running 27.2 and V2.02 so far no issues (Did just put it back in on Sunday and driving in rush hour doesn't really give the chance for a lot of WOT time).

Did you remove your proceed before they did the update?

sdwilly · 12-17-2007, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by -Ryan-

Did you remove your proceed before they did the update?

Yes, my SA prefers it that way (No issues that way if anything comes up).

-Ryan- · 12-17-2007, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sdwilly

Yes, my SA prefers it that way (No issues that way if anything comes up).

That's basically what my SA told me too. Thanks.

e.n335 · 12-17-2007, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Terry335

I aim to please.

The main headache with these updates is BMW is making the plausibility tests tighter and tighter. I'm not sure if its meant to give aftermarket guys a hard time, or if there are serious concerns in the engine they want to head off earlier. Probably the latter.

They have no serious concerns. They do this once a year to incorporate their latest changes. And make you ECU flashes mad this way.

judec · 12-17-2007, 03:25 PM

some issues and hesitation with the Helix Attache were resolved after updating to the newest release of progman.

TurboBullett@Ambient Thermal Management · 12-17-2007, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by judec

some issues and hesitation with the Helix Attache were resolved after updating to the newest release of progman.

the latest dme updtae has to do with part throttle and emmissions. There have been a few posts on this site where people(stock and piggyback) were experiencing a surging at very low throttle inputs and low rpms. One of our 6 speed testers was experiencing this but since the latest BMW flash it has gone away completely

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vbmw335 · 12-17-2007, 04:47 PM

My friend started having limp mode issues after a possible software update (he dropped his car for service). He's on V1.47 and gets it right when he hits the rev limiter on 3rg gear 100mph. I would wait a litle longer to get an update. Atleast until there is confirmation on what really the update does to piggyback's.

timtech · 12-18-2007, 06:43 AM

bump for the one last mainstream tuner on this board.

timtech · 12-19-2007, 01:54 PM

Bump, bump...

RiXst3r · 12-19-2007, 05:09 PM

my car is horrible with the partial throttle surging crap... it still "bucks" even while its cold... I think I am still on the original september of 2006 progman version

I start out in second gear pretty much all the time just because of it

Maybe its time to go in for an update

sdwilly · 12-19-2007, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by RiXst3r

my car is horrible with the partial throttle surging crap... it still "bucks" even while its cold... I think I am still on the original september of 2006 progman version

I start out in second gear pretty much all the time just because of it

Maybe its time to go in for an update

Mine was surging similar to that a few months back, don't remember which Progman update fixed it but I haven't had the problem in a while.

Serjames · 12-19-2007, 05:16 PM

Rumour is it seems to have resolved some low speed "pulling away" issues with Uk cars.

SJ

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Ander Enlisted Member 6 Rep 46 Posts Drives: 2007 e90 335i Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	Tune Developers: Latest BMW progman vs your tunes Piggyback Tune Developers: Read recently that latest Progman changes ecu behavior. How does that impact our piggybacks: Procede 1.4x? Procede 2.x? Juiceboxes? Helix? etc. I'm up for progman update this week...running Procede v2.0.2 mt.
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BoostedE90 Lieutenant Colonel 55 Rep 1,690 Posts Drives: e90 335i 6MT Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Tampa/Gainesville, FL iTrader: (5)	Just received my '08 and i was thinking the same thing. I know Shiv was looking for an '08 to test with. Wonder how that worked out?
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12-17-2007, 10:17 AM	#3
e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Good question. If it's worth to update the ECU I would do.
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BoostedBMW Moderator 132 Rep 6,775 Posts Drives: TiAg E92 335 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Raleigh, NC iTrader: (14) Garage List 2003 S2000 [0.00]	subscribing I'm interested to hear some info on this... __________________ -Michael. Berlina Black S2000 CR is now in the garage l 19" Rial Daytona Race l KW V2 l Eisenhaus Race Exhaust l
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gobo335i Toy Wrangler 11 Rep 193 Posts Drives: 135i - GoCart on Steroids Join Date: May 2007 Location: Los Angeles, California iTrader: (0)	I NEED to know the story with software updates....I have the 1.47 out for a progman upgrade this week! I don't want issues when I put 2.02 back in! Someone enlighten us please! __________________ Had a 335i. It was a highway missile. Traded to a 135i. It's a go-cart on steroids.
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12-17-2007, 11:18 AM	#6
Terry335 Banned 96 Rep 2,587 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Socal iTrader: (0)	No issues with the JB1 or JB2, although R users have reported a 20 second CEL if they leave the switch on overnight. The fix right now is to turn the switch off when you're done for the night.
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v2bling First Lieutenant 7 Rep 301 Posts Drives: speed demon Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Mansfield,tx iTrader: (0)	Freaking Genius Are you referring to that progman 27 update? __________________ 535i - Black Sapphire/Black Dakota/Bamboo/AnthraciteHeadliner/M-Tech Kit/Spoiler/Sports/Premium/Navi/HUD/Comfort/Rear Shades/ParkDistance/Ipod/Sports Auto w/Paddle/Logik7/30% Tint/Clear Bra/KW3/ Radenergie rs10 20"/Defi RedRacer Psi/Smoked front reflectors/ LED interior lights Soon: Rpi Catback, GIAC or EVOtech flash, Dinan Rear Strut, OEM M5 Mirrors
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e.n335 Moderator 270 Rep 4,481 Posts Drives: e93 ///M3 DCT, 07/2009 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Switzerland, ZH iTrader: (0)	Terry gets 100 scores because he was the only tune developer answering the question Thank you.
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12-17-2007, 01:25 PM	#10
sdwilly First Lieutenant 21 Rep 384 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Bay Area iTrader: (1)	Currently running 27.2 and V2.02 so far no issues (Did just put it back in on Sunday and driving in rush hour doesn't really give the chance for a lot of WOT time).
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judec born to be turbocharged 24 Rep 1,347 Posts Drives: Not a bimmer yet Join Date: May 2007 Location: Slovakia iTrader: (0)	some issues and hesitation with the Helix Attache were resolved after updating to the newest release of progman. __________________ Disclaimer: All this message was written with recycled electrons.
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12-17-2007, 04:47 PM	#17
vbmw335 Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 263 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Coupe Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: on the moon iTrader: (0)	My friend started having limp mode issues after a possible software update (he dropped his car for service). He's on V1.47 and gets it right when he hits the rev limiter on 3rg gear 100mph. I would wait a litle longer to get an update. Atleast until there is confirmation on what really the update does to piggyback's. __________________ 335i coupe Procede 700 HP EPL Tuned Porsche 911 Turbo E46 M3 SMG BMW X5 4.8 is
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RiXst3r 274 Rep 6,510 Posts Drives: M235i Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Ohio iTrader: (14)	my car is horrible with the partial throttle surging crap... it still "bucks" even while its cold... I think I am still on the original september of 2006 progman version I start out in second gear pretty much all the time just because of it Maybe its time to go in for an update
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12-19-2007, 05:16 PM	#22
Serjames Colonel 128 Rep 2,426 Posts Drives: E93 335i M-sport Join Date: May 2007 Location: Surrey - UK iTrader: (0) Garage List 2007 E93 335i M Spo ... [0.00] 2003 Nissan Primera S [0.00]	Rumour is it seems to have resolved some low speed "pulling away" issues with Uk cars. SJ __________________
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