[sajakh]

Looks like C&D has bust the gates wide open on the tuning aspects of our beloved 335i:

http://www.caranddriver.com/features...-bmw-335i.html

"Which raises the point: If half a pound of extra boost can strip a few tenths, what might a couple pounds do? Although we know you’d never, ever compromise your warranty with an impossible-to-trace piggyback performance ECU, we understand the temptation to whup on M3s and return home to sleep on a bed of 20,000 stacked $1 bills."

[!Xoible]

eeezzz a nice!!! thanks!

[iPodAddict]

Nice!

So how do we tell if we have the additional oil cooler or not?

[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by iPodAddict

Nice!

So how do we tell if we have the additional oil cooler or not?

drive the piss out of your car and see if your car overheats in 20 minutes?

[BoostedBMW]

Originally Posted by Artz 330

drive the piss out of your car and see if your car overheats in 20 minutes?

Either that or you can take a look in your passenger wheel well.

[Driver72]

I love how they (and I guess the competitor car manufacturers) think that BMW is sending the car magazines "ringers" that have .5 psi more boost.

Saying that after they have gotten two BMWs to do 0-60 in 4.8 seconds and both times got low to mid 13's @ 106 mph, but suggesting owners cars aren't as fast. Come on!!

Do they NOT look at what owners are doing at the tracks?
Do they NOT know that those are common numbers for the stock 335i's?

Give me a break, you'd think "journalists" would do a bit or research before making stupid comments like that. Those accusational and unfounded comments are what spread rumors and so forth.

Search dragtimes Car and Driver.
Go onto the car forums like THIS one and ASK what people are getting in their STOCK 335's at various tracks.

[Terry335]

For what it's worth, I have noticed some variance among cars. For example JonM's car made 14.0psi with the JB2HR, while mine made 14.5 with the JB2HR. These .5psi variances would explain why some cars seem to be slightly faster than others when all stock.

[Driver72]

Originally Posted by Terry335

For what it's worth, I have noticed some variance among cars. For example JonM's car made 14.0psi with the JB2HR, while mine made 14.5 with the JB2HR. These .5psi variances would explain why some cars seem to be slightly faster than others when all stock.

That could be true Terry, but they made it sound like BMW was sending them some ringers. Which with their times listed, they are not, they fall right in line with what pretty much every skilled 335i owner on a GOOD track will get with the car, especially corrected to sea level like C&D does.

But I know each car is different.
At the original LA Dyno Day install of the PROcede's there was a 10-11 rwhp difference between the 335i's dynoed there.
That wasn't the difference between the transmission either.
There were 7 autos and the gap was 10 rwhp, and there was like 10 manuals and again like 10-11 rwhp difference among them too.

But again, gas quality, break in, and engine tolerances of ALL cars will have that much variation one 300+ hp cars I'm sure.

On v2.0.2 on 92 Octane and 92% settings, Sharewin said he was only seeing 13.1 psi boost for my car. Others see 14 psi with those settings.
Maybe my coupe is slow too, but the dyno numbers on the dynojet were good!
But I was able to pull 1.5 CL on JonM when we were both on v1.47 too (he had 175+ lbs more weight in his car, but also had RD Sport Catback exhaust and was lowered for better aerodynamics.
So who knows, but the point is each car varies.

[lawdude]

Terry knows what you're talking about. He just wanted to say "JB2HR".

[stressdoc]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Terry knows what you're talking about. He just wanted to say "JB2HR".

I needed something to laugh about after reading the rpa thread about how awful BMW is and what a bunch of fanbois we all are.

[NaTuReB0Y]

there is no way in hell anyone can get a 335i for $40k..........

[ArmyBimmerDude]

Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

there is no way in hell anyone can get a 335i for $40k..........

Military overseas

[spesrf25]

I just noticed a Typo. The header states:

"Base Price: $39,675
0-to-60-mph time: 4.8 sec
Quarter-mile time: 13.6 @ 105 mph"

But the test results state:

C/D TEST RESULTS:
Zero to 60 mph: 4.8 sec
Zero to 100 mph: 11.8 sec
Zero to 130 mph: 21.1 sec
Street start, 5–60 mph: 5.6 sec
Standing ¼-mile: 13.5 sec @ 106 mph
Top speed (governor limited): 145 mph
Braking, 70–0 mph: 157 ft
Roadholding, 300-ft-dia skidpad: 0.89 g

Which could it be???

[spesrf25]

Originally Posted by ArmyBimmerDude

Military overseas

I have also enjoyed the fruits of Military Overseas prices. Great, aint it!

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by NaTuReB0Y

there is no way in hell anyone can get a 335i for $40k..........

Mine was a little under $40k if memory serves. Base E90 with auto & alum trim. If you want a stick and did ED I think you could get one for ~$36k.

[TN_3]

Yeah, I got my 335i sedan for $39,750 with 6spd, sport, and alum. trim. Sticker was $41, 300 though....

[MacDutchski]

Man those Chargers are fast for how big they are!

[e36jakeo]

All of us who have done the research on the 335i know that it is THE best bang-for-the-buck sedan when tunability and all-around performance are considered. The fact C & D has outlined this in their article is a nice confirmation.

The 1-series (although only a coupe) will be the 2008 bang-for the -buck champ. It costs about $5K less, has better 6-piston brakes, has better weight distribution (48 front/ 52 rear) and weighs 3373 lbs (200 lbs less than the 335i coupe). A year from now there be 450 hp/500 ft-lb torque tuned 135is running around weighing close to 3000 lbs and blowing away nearly every other car (regardless of price) at road courses around the world.

http://bmwusa.com/Standard/Content/V...fications.aspx

[edgarj]

It would be awesome if the Charger STR8 really had a "mullet contoured" headrest option like C&D joked about!

[smellthebeans]

Originally Posted by MacDutchski

Man those Chargers are fast for how big they are!

I test drove one along with Mustang GT, & a GTO...just to make sure....and for whats its worth.......it drove like a BATTLE SHIP.

The mustang felt like mario cart and made me sound like Joe Dirt.

and the GTO (while faster than greased lighting!) could not match the refinement and balance the e90 (with ZSP). Traction control only seemed to brake and cut the throttle...it was also incredibly intrusive.

I'll take my "slow" 330i any day.

[vbb]

Originally Posted by smellthebeans

I test drove one along with Mustang GT, & a GTO...just to make sure....and for whats its worth.......it drove like a BATTLE SHIP.

The mustang felt like mario cart and made me sound like Joe Dirt.

and the GTO (while faster than greased lighting!) could not match the refinement and balance the e90 (with ZSP). Traction control only seemed to brake and cut the throttle...it was also incredibly intrusive.

I'll take my "slow" 330i any day.

I agree. I test drove a GTO because I wanted to see how it felt. While quick, the car definitely felt like I was driving a brick. It just didn't feel nimble at all.