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      07-26-2014, 02:45 PM   #1
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All-season vs summer

I was tracking my production on bmwna and I noticed it showed all-seasons tires when I ordered summer. How much of a difference is there between the two and is the all season still pilot ss
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      07-26-2014, 02:53 PM   #2
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Contact your dealer ASAP. Totally different tyres and with the all seasons you'll be limited to a 130 mph top speed vs 155 with the summer performance.
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      07-26-2014, 03:50 PM   #3
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Well this is interesting, talked to the SALES MANAGER and he was unaware that the summers were non-rft and that they would get back to me on this issue. To be honest I'm getting pretty pissed
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      07-26-2014, 03:55 PM   #4
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Good thing you found out during the process then before delivery. Worse case the issue can be corrected by the dealer once it arrives. Although it will required new tires/wheels and re-coding of the vehicle order.

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      07-26-2014, 03:56 PM   #5
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Yea I'm glad I saw this early too, it just entered production yesterday. So I'm gona strongly request that they do that if they can't change the order
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      07-26-2014, 04:13 PM   #6
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Dave, I remember your "estimated production week" is Week 32, isn't it? Mine is the same but still cannot see anything on the BMWUSA website. I called the 800 yesterday and the lady suggest I call again later next week.
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      07-26-2014, 04:18 PM   #7
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Dave, I remember your "estimated production week" is Week 32, isn't it? Mine is the same but still cannot see anything on the BMWUSA website. I called the 800 yesterday and the lady suggest I call again later next week.
That was the estimate given to my by bmwna when I talked to a live person. However when I automated system today it said I had entered production. I guess they were able to push it up a few days and started either Thursday or Friday. Maybe yours will start on Monday
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      07-26-2014, 04:37 PM   #8
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And a quite update the dealer is gona fix this problem. That gave me a scare
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      07-26-2014, 05:13 PM   #9
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That was the estimate given to my by bmwna when I talked to a live person. However when I automated system today it said I had entered production. I guess they were able to push it up a few days and started either Thursday or Friday. Maybe yours will start on Monday
Hopefully!!! It's great that your dealer is able to fix it now!
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      07-26-2014, 05:25 PM   #10
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And a quite update the dealer is gona fix this problem. That gave me a scare
Make sure they fix this while the car is in production. My car was ordered incorrectly as well and they had to order me a new one since the computer cannot be reprogrammed once it leaves the factory
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      07-26-2014, 05:26 PM   #11
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Yea the dealer said that they were either gona get it fixed over in Germany or swap everything out at the dealer. I also talked to him about the production going in early and since my allocation was more or less bought that it had priority. I bet you should be entering production very soon
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      07-28-2014, 07:23 PM   #12
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This happened to me, I was pissed. Dealer had to order a completely different car to get it right. Be carefull when they switch out for the proper tires your back rim is still going to be narrower... This was the deal breaker for me as they said they could give me the right tires but not exchange rims and were not sure about the top speed limiter. Good luck to you, it is so frustrating but a lot of people had this problem.
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      07-28-2014, 07:26 PM   #13
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That's seems weird they couldn't switch out the rims. I'm gona demand that it gets done
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      07-29-2014, 09:40 AM   #14
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That's seems weird they couldn't switch out the rims. I'm gona demand that it gets done
Is your car a 2014? If so I don't think it can be fix. As there isn't any more allocation for another built. It is a bug in the system that once a A/S tire was set on the production order, it can't be remove. The only way is either the dealer have to swap the tire and the rear rim for you but you will lose the mobility kit as well as top speed limiter removed 130mph. My CA has the same screw up but I end up taking the car and live with it. You can't drive over 130mph in US anyways.

Since the car is in production, there is no way it can be change.
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      07-29-2014, 09:57 AM   #15
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It's a 2015. And my dealer already had to trade for my allocation so another build isn't likely
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      07-29-2014, 10:03 AM   #16
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What's the mobility kit btw
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      07-29-2014, 07:14 PM   #17
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Annnnnnnddddddd reorder at least it's only one production week later so hopefully it enters production this week
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      07-29-2014, 10:55 PM   #18
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Annnnnnnddddddd reorder at least it's only one production week later so hopefully it enters production this week
Reordered?? My goodness... Mine seems to enter production today, though the system does not show yet. Hope there's nothing wrong!
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What's the mobility kit btw
Fix a flat and an air pump for car with Non RFT
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will the pump work just for air? or do you have to have the can of the sealer to work?
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will the pump work just for air? or do you have to have the can of the sealer to work?
No you can use it on anything without sealer. It's just an air compressor.
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      08-27-2014, 09:24 AM   #22
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This happened to me, I was pissed. Dealer had to order a completely different car to get it right. Be carefull when they switch out for the proper tires your back rim is still going to be narrower... This was the deal breaker for me as they said they could give me the right tires but not exchange rims and were not sure about the top speed limiter. Good luck to you, it is so frustrating but a lot of people had this problem.
Based on my order experience this week, nothing has improved. Had specified all seasons, read this thread & then changed to summer performance.
Salesperson did not know anything about rim size change, permanent speed limit reduction or deletion of mobility kit with the 'all season' box checked. Service person at the dealership could at least explain the permanent speed limit reduction (legalities) but did not know any details beyond that. Called to BMW USA 800 'genius' number & they could not provide any meaningful detail level information & seemed not to know anything beyond what is written on the BMW USA website. Neither resource was aware that the all season rft's do not allow the car to handle as well as it ought (they were aware the summers were more sticky but they thought both tires were rft's).
If it were not for the rim size change it would be a hard decision about the all seasons just due to rft tire price and my local weather. The rft's would be all I need for winter here and it seems like they are probably a 1200 + a set tire, so getting them and then buying the summers is a thought process.

Anyway, for what it is worth to the next person. Unfortunately, decision criteria noted above (for example the rim size difference) is based upon reading this forum rather than official BMW info & is subject to error or to change.
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