M4 vs. FBO 335i

M5Rlz · 07-24-2014, 11:01 PM

What everyone wanted to know... FBO 335i with meth and e85

Jaymax85 · 07-24-2014, 11:09 PM

man an m3/m4 with a tune is gonna massacre all given the cray power gains!

M5Rlz · 07-24-2014, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by jawwadh

man an m3/m4 with a tune is gonna massacre all given the cray power gains!

It held up nice 1.5-2.5 car lengths it held its own vs. a very nice tuned car.

Karmic Man · 07-25-2014, 04:31 AM

How much power is the 335i making?

ASAP · 07-25-2014, 05:15 AM

There we go... the 335i makes probably around 430 whp... but then again so does that m4, so what happened lol? I don't think a stock m4 makes 430 simply put... those dynos r happy. I venture that we r seeing a 25-30 whp difference here.

M5Rlz · 07-25-2014, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Karmic Man

How much power is the 335i making?

It's got everything jb4+ protune, e, meth I'm sure it's at least 400whp and 440wtrq

Over on e90post their are guys running those setups making (or through happy dynos) 440whp and 480wtrq with those fbo setups... Either way I think it did fine stock.

Karmic Man · 07-25-2014, 09:30 AM

Looks like if the 335i didn't stop it will keep on pulling further...more like between 30 -50whp difference...the M4 has better transient response from the turbocharger but losing out at the top end.

ASAP · 07-25-2014, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Karmic Man

Looks like if the 335i didn't stop it will keep on pulling further...more like between 30 -50whp difference...the M4 has better transient response from the turbocharger but losing out at the top end.

The timing on a meth and e85 N54 is very aggressive and gives it that advantage top end. I agree it looks like the N54 could have kept pulling. I'd like to see an M4 w that base Jb4. Also, they need that Jb4 on the M4 bcuz there is an RB car that is local too.

jc05e46m3 · 07-25-2014, 09:40 AM

Thanks for the share!

TurboSid · 07-25-2014, 12:02 PM

What tranny is the M4? Sounds like DCT.

Nice runs, I think its about where it should be against a 335i with meth/e85.

ASAP · 07-25-2014, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboSid

What tranny is the M4? Sounds like DCT.

Nice runs, I think its about where it should be against a 335i with meth/e85.

DCT... I have also already seen a race against a 6mt M4... and trust me you don't want to see that one.

M5Rlz · 07-25-2014, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboSid

What tranny is the M4? Sounds like DCT.

Nice runs, I think its about where it should be against a 335i with meth/e85.

DCT and I agree

K20A2_S · 07-25-2014, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ASAP

DCT... I have also already seen a race against a 6mt M4... and trust me you don't want to see that one.

Are you saying the Manual is faster than the DCT?

JStang · 07-25-2014, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by K20A2_S

Are you saying the Manual is faster than the DCT?

No way.

Myrder · 07-25-2014, 01:56 PM

Looks about right, I would venture to guess the 335i is making more than 430rwhp/450tq...I would hope so given meth/e85/FBO/ and protune...

Given the M4/M3s are going to be making 415-425 it looks right to me.

They started at a roll, so what...30-50mph...raced for 11seconds...getting up to damn near 130mph(?)... so 1.5-2.5 car lengths would only be 25whp difference est.

This is going off of the principal that 1 car is around .1 sec difference in the quarter or 10whp difference.

TurboSid · 07-25-2014, 01:56 PM

I think he means that m4 lost even worse.

M5Rlz · 07-25-2014, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Myrder

Looks about right, I would venture to guess the 335i is making more than 430rwhp/450tq...I would hope so given meth/e85/FBO/ and protune...

Given the M4/M3s are going to be making 415-425 it looks right to me.

They started at a roll, so what...30-50mph...raced for 11seconds...getting up to damn near 130mph(?)... so 1.5-2.5 car lengths would only be 25whp difference est.

This is going off of the principal that 1 car is around .1 sec difference in the quarter or 10whp difference.

I would say so (I was just going for overly conservative rather than picking the highest FBO meth+e dyno I've seen

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closest run was a 20 roll second one where the 335i opened up a healthy 1.5+ car lead was 40roll

ASAP · 07-25-2014, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by TurboSid

I think he means that m4 lost even worse.

way worse

135Pats · 07-25-2014, 02:50 PM

That's a damn strong showing for the S55 considering where it stands on the tuning front relative to 54s.

LwaLt · 07-25-2014, 02:52 PM

No need to worry guys, when we get a FBO + e85 m3/m4 it's going to be a whole different playing field. Any who, this car was made with the purpose of tracking in mind so...

bmwm3redblack · 07-25-2014, 02:55 PM

it seems that for now modded n54 is faster,but i think not for long)))

2Times · 07-25-2014, 03:28 PM

I was curious about this... thanks for sharing

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