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      07-02-2014, 05:06 PM   #1
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First day out on track

Afternoon all.

had my first ever track session today. Only a single 20minutes at Brands Hatch, but wanted to know how the BM felt and its only £25 for 20minutes rude not to really.

So basics of the car ..E93 335i Standard engine, just Twin BMS Cone filters.

Koni Yellow and H&R springs.

235/35/19 Front tyres, everything else standard.

WHAT A FUN 20 MINUTES!

Never had a buzz like that before, started off slow went one clio go past me .. then i thought no way am i letting that get away. ended up taking about 8 cars including a 450 Subaru (as the owner claimed)

alot of people might be thinking only 20 minutes in a standard car, but first time out and i would say to anyone who hasnt tried it, get booking now!

Did have a slight issue, think i boiled brake fluid, even though only replaced it last month! So a flush with some 5.1 will be done next week and to find out why i had a christmas tree effect of lights on the dash.
got a few warnings about DSC faults etc will plug it in tomorrow and see.

Oh yeah ... JB4 next ... Need more power!

anyways ill let some photos do some talking.










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it would be an idea to get some proper fluid in there if your planning more track days, as standard 5.1 will just boil instantly again.

Motul RBF600 would be my suggestion for the odd track day

i would also advise getting some proper tuition, many track day orginisers will offer an experianced co-pilot to sit in and show you the ropes, well worth the beer tokens.


and lastly, you shouldnt be getting baited by a clio passing you :P
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      07-02-2014, 05:23 PM   #3
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it would be an idea to get some proper fluid in there if your planning more track days, as standard 5.1 will just boil instantly again.

Motul RBF600 would be my suggestion for the odd track day

i would also advise getting some proper tuition, many track day orginisers will offer an experianced co-pilot to sit in and show you the ropes, well worth the beer tokens.


and lastly, you shouldnt be getting baited by a clio passing you :P
Thanks for the advice ill look into that fluid

my buddy who was with me been round here alot but was just learning lines as i was going really, but i do want to do soemthing like that in the future. This was more to just see what i could do with the basic car build more confidence with it. has alot more grip then i originally thought it would.

i think it was a bad driver! had terrible lines through the bends took hardly any speed into them.
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Brands Hatch is a great circuit to learn on, took my 172 Clio Turbo around there a couple of times with the guys from work.

Things i liked, pretty compromising on sound levels [ Clio had a straight through exhaust]

Things i did not like
Very busy and lots of people in exotics who could not drive for shit.

Glad you had a good time though. Next time, try Bedford autodrome, much more fun.
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Nice man glad you enjoyed it! Did you feel the need for an LSD?

I really want to go to Bedford this year but they don't do 20min sessions. Might have to just hit the full day session on the long ass GT circuit!
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Oh and i reccommend ATE Super Blue. They also do Super Gold so you know when you're flushing. Quite cheap from eurocarparts.
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I've got 2l of ATE blue for sale.

Pm if interested.
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Brands Hatch is a great circuit to learn on, took my 172 Clio Turbo around there a couple of times with the guys from work.

Things i liked, pretty compromising on sound levels [ Clio had a straight through exhaust]

Things i did not like
Very busy and lots of people in exotics who could not drive for shit.

Glad you had a good time though. Next time, try Bedford autodrome, much more fun.
Seems to be the same type of things going on really. there was someone in a stripped out kitted Clio infront of me which i expected to take off but went past him on second lap.

but yeah its a great little circuit, its a fairly simple track its hard to make a big mistake which you cant correct really.

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Nice man glad you enjoyed it! Did you feel the need for an LSD?

I really want to go to Bedford this year but they don't do 20min sessions. Might have to just hit the full day session on the long ass GT circuit!
Hmm i wouldnt say so with the standard power level no, but ive never driven a rear wheel drive car with one. its not like it was sitting there spinning up one wheel and you didnt have to wait to feed in the power to worry about losing the back if you kept a good line through the corners etc.

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I've got 2l of ATE blue for sale.

Pm if interested.
Thanks Phill! not sure what im doing yet as we have two cars which will be changed at the same time so might need slightly more. Will PM you if plans change though thanks


And thanks for all the kind words guys! Short time on track but got the itch for it now need more!
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£25!!!!! .....next time give us a shout!!!!

i'm in!!!

the next sessions for £25 are in August

http://www.msvtrackdays.com/car-home...productid=2354

im doing 7 and maybe 7:40
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Word of caution brands is a very technical track and I've seen some nice cars smashed to bits by owners going too fast too soon!
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Looks like a lot of fun in 20 minutes!
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Brands is certainly not an easy track! But i loved it there!


If you do JB4 next, def do intercooler at the same time for consistant performance on teh track.
I was getting very hot very quickly, and my pads and discs were not up to the task so i was only doing 3 laps at a time. Consider new pads as the stock discs should be fine. Obviously fluid that has been mentioned, and maybe braided brake lines too.

Were you using DSC on the day?

I enjoyed the koni yellow and H&R combo on the track, but i would def consider some anti roll bars!

These mods aren't huge expenses... and would make your time on the track a lot more fun!
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Nice man glad you enjoyed it! Did you feel the need for an LSD?

I really want to go to Bedford this year but they don't do 20min sessions. Might have to just hit the full day session on the long ass GT circuit!
Do thr full day ive done bedford GT 9 times now absolutly love the curcuit, safe, fast and good to learn on as nothing to hit
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looks like you had a good day though i take my cars on alot of track days only took the bmw once though that was fun



my main track toy

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Brands is certainly not an easy track! But i loved it there!


If you do JB4 next, def do intercooler at the same time for consistant performance on teh track.
I was getting very hot very quickly, and my pads and discs were not up to the task so i was only doing 3 laps at a time. Consider new pads as the stock discs should be fine. Obviously fluid that has been mentioned, and maybe braided brake lines too.

Were you using DSC on the day?

I enjoyed the koni yellow and H&R combo on the track, but i would def consider some anti roll bars!

These mods aren't huge expenses... and would make your time on the track a lot more fun!
yeah when i originally changed my brakes i had no plans to touch a track so they are not up for the job, like wise with standard fluids so will all be done before next month i hope. and ive already looked into braided lines fairly cheap for them to.

but this isnt a daily track going car, its just a little bit of fun to see what the car can do with me behind the wheel.

i started with just DSC, but i had failure of ... something on about lap 4 or 5 brakes went dash lit up but i just pushed on had no aids left on as i found out couple corners later but wasnt to bad.

i did stiffen up the Koni's a bit but needed a bit more on the front .. the back i didnt both change from when i picked them up from you to much hassle to change on the fly, will do it next time i have the boot apart.
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looks like you had a good day though i take my cars on alot of track days only took the bmw once though that was fun



my main track toy

There was alot of Clios at brands. i do love the sound of the 182s and with small suspension work, ive heard they handle like go karts!

theres a local lad who has two 182s both turbo'd running around 500bhp but i dont know if he tracks either of them.
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There was alot of Clios at brands. i do love the sound of the 182s and with small suspension work, ive heard they handle like go karts!

theres a local lad who has two 182s both turbo'd running around 500bhp but i dont know if he tracks either of them.
Chris savage? Liquid yellow and blue 182? Very quick cars! He does sometimes not a lot though
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Chris savage? Liquid yellow and blue 182? Very quick cars! He does sometimes not a lot though
think that the one. i see him a few weeks ago at brands had a quick chat with him, lovely car!
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