[sunchild]

Just raced my neighbor, he has a stick shift 350Z, we took it to about 120, I kept pulling on him until 120, at about 80 MPH he was 1 and half cars behind me. I'm pretty impressed with the real life performance of this vehicle.

[StevoSEA]

This is one of the first believable "I RACED" posts that I have read, thanks. After 120mph what happened?

[BMW0]

280HP 3.5 V6 Vs 255HP 3.0 I-6, interesting battle i'd like to see by "best motoring" or "fifth gear."

[wheeler]

Originally Posted by BMW0

280HP 3.5 V6 Vs 255HP 3.0 I-6, interesting battle i'd like to see by "best motoring" or "fifth gear."

Nissan rates it at 287 hp. Also, I was told that Nissan has not voluntarily adopted the US standardized method for calculating HP, which means it is overstated in their sales literature.

I agree though that the real-world performance of the BMW is spectacular! I'm tieing or beating cars that the specs and published 0-60 numbers say should take me--and I have an auto trans.

[canucklion]

German horses run harder than Japanese horses

[volinder]

Your friend doesn't know how to drive. I hate to burst your bubble, but the 350Z would beat a 330i. Sorry!!

[0700700]

THEY are quite quick.. one was giving me trouble a while ago when i was driving the m3... after i got full traction though it was BYE BYE

[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by volinder

Your friend doesn't know how to drive. I hate to burst your bubble, but the 350Z would beat a 330i. Sorry!!

Sorry to Burst yours also. But I have raced Plenty of them also. Kill the auto's the Stick's by 1-2 car lengths depending on how fast we were going. I have beaten my share of g35's to. One of them who happens to be my friend and hes a sick stick driver. How do I know he can drive? Because I've driven with him, he has a N/A Supra that he drifts in competitions. While back when I still had my 330Ci, I thought about a 350Z and a G35, I drove both and and didnt feel anything like the BMW, Close but not quite.

[Mark]

Definitely! I love when all the magazine racers get a taste of real life when an "underpowered" BMW takes on their cars... I've taken on a G35 sedan auto (granted less power then the newer G35s infinitis, and it was auto im sure) more then once with my 325 2.5l E46..... Well there is still alot of schooling to be done, since most people read an HP blurb in a magazine and assume one car is faster then another. Go BMW

PS. The powerrating for BMW motors are not an average rating but the bare minimum any engine will produce, there are variances in engine build so some engines will be more powerful then others from the factory.. But the published data are the MINIMUM tolerance for the engine.. some have up to 5% more power.. When you compare that with traditionally overstated power ratings from the japanese engines (look at their torque curves, and laugh...) and you get the picture of how we will walk them everytime in the real world.

[BiggieJ]

Originally Posted by MarkE90M3

PS. The powerrating for BMW motors are not an average rating but the bare minimum any engine will produce, there are variances in engine build so some engines will be more powerful then others from the factory.. But the published data are the MINIMUM tolerance for the engine.. some have up to 5% more power.. When you compare that with traditionally overstated power ratings from the japanese engines (look at their torque curves, and laugh...) and you get the picture of how we will walk them everytime in the real world.

from what i understand using the "new" SAE standard the 5% fluctuation goes either way. the manufacter has the right to state HP with this fluctuation in mind. since no motor can be built/make exact same HP the 5% is a given "slack." and japanese motors were not overrated just measured differently. the new SAE standard just cuts down on the variables a bit more to get more uniformity with the numbers from all companies.

most japanese car companies have adopted the new SAE standard- toyota/ lexus, honda/acura.(and have dropped in HP) but nissan/infiniti's are still holding out. i remember when the G35 engines went from 260 to 280 to 298 but in real world tests the difference was minimal. especially when it went from 280 to 298 becasue they actually lost 10/lbs of torque. so maybe nissan/infiniti's have a GOOD reason not to adopt until the next gen G37 because it might reveal the real numbers. (which BTW are respectable numbers. the VQ engines are pretty sweet)

[ase2dais]

Originally Posted by volinder

Your friend doesn't know how to drive. I hate to burst your bubble, but the 350Z would beat a 330i. Sorry!!

+1

[gscone]

Your buddy sure does not know how to drive. No way our E90 is going to hang close to the 350Z.

[gscone]

Originally Posted by Ethirtynine

What year is his 350Z? It could be close to 300 hp

Must be a 2k3+.

[thd13]

Originally Posted by sunchild

Just raced my neighbor, he has a stick shift 350Z, we took it to about 120, I kept pulling on him until 120, at about 80 MPH he was 1 and half cars behind me. I'm pretty impressed with the real life performance of this vehicle.

I believe it, I beat an NSX a week ago!



Just kidding, BTW, for the serious guys here.

[BMW F22]

wonder who would really win. I looked up the specs on car and driver and the Z is faster both 0-60 and 1/4 mile. It seems that the 350Z would def. win hands down.

[lux.sh]

sunchild, is your got manual?

also, by stick-shift, you mean manual right?

[aem]

The Z should win.

[r3amir]

The German Horses are bigger and stronger than the weak Japaneses horses

[huchung]

Originally Posted by Artz 330

Sorry to Burst yours also. But I have raced Plenty of them also. Kill the auto's the Stick's by 1-2 car lengths depending on how fast we were going. I have beaten my share of g35's to. One of them who happens to be my friend and hes a sick stick driver. How do I know he can drive? Because I've driven with him, he has a N/A Supra that he drifts in competitions. While back when I still had my 330Ci, I thought about a 350Z and a G35, I drove both and and didnt feel anything like the BMW, Close but not quite.

Hate to burst your bubble, but the 330i doesnt have the pickup the Z does. Being a previous Z owner, and testdriving many 330i before buying a 325i, I can honestly tell you his friend doesnt know how to drive. I bet you he was in 6th gear at 120 while he was only suppose to be in 4th.

Edit: Also...Z drivers (being one, and knowing a lot of em), dont always take challenges when presented. Once in a while, youll see a kid out there trying to race everyone with his Zs, but not all of us do that. More often than not, we wont know we were racing...So you couldve beaten 10 Zs/Gs and none of them wouldve known theyve been in a race...And for educational purposes, Z's and G's are not the same. The Z is 3200 while the G is 3500. Same engine, suspension, 300 extra lbs to carry around. Our e90's 3300+ lbs.

[Artz 330]

Originally Posted by huchung

Hate to burst your bubble, but the 330i doesnt have the pickup the Z does. Being a previous Z owner, and testdriving many 330i before buying a 325i, I can honestly tell you his friend doesnt know how to drive. I bet you he was in 6th gear at 120 while he was only suppose to be in 4th.

Edit: Also...Z drivers (being one, and knowing a lot of em), dont always take challenges when presented. Once in a while, youll see a kid out there trying to race everyone with his Zs, but not all of us do that. More often than not, we wont know we were racing...So you couldve beaten 10 Zs/Gs and none of them wouldve known theyve been in a race...And for educational purposes, Z's and G's are not the same. The Z is 3200 while the G is 3500. Same engine, suspension, 300 extra lbs to carry around. Our e90's 3300+ lbs.

Hate to burst yours also. Plenty of people I know own Gs and Zs and non of them have beaten me. Close But not quite. And yes they CAN drive.

[sunchild]

Yeah, mine's a manual. Some of you guys need to stop magazine racing.

[alpinewhite3]

I totally believe this story. My friend the other day drove my step 330i and was VERY impressed. He drives a stick shift g35 coupe and he was very impressed at how quickly the engine revved and he told me that this car felt just as fast as his coupe. He is switching over to BMW and loved the d/s mode so much that he's currently debating between manual/step for his new 330i. Yesterday we decided to race each other to 100mph and i beat him by about 1.5 car lengths, then we did it again and that time i beat him by 2 car lengths. I felt so proud! I dont even care about the 335 coming anymore, this car is amazing!Never trusting magazine numbers again and btw he's decided to go with the steptronic.