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      12-19-2023, 08:44 AM   #1
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CCC to CIC retrofit coding

Hi there,
So Iīve made a CCC Business to CIC Professional retrofit at first I couldnīt find CIC in the ECUīs list but after some research and tips i got it (Removing the 606 from the following modules (CAS and NFRM) and adding the 609 to the same modules (CAS and NFRM) using FA_WRITE worked.
Now Iīm having the following issues:
1- Bluetooth doesnīt work (I believe must be coded but no idea how)
2- In Service status I have a few symbols with no text
3- Navigation is greyed out (Must be coded to VIN and most likely firmware updated to be able to use the patch, I guess my version is C08)
Iīm quite new to all this, did some research in Internet and followed the procedures described in some tutorials. Step by step tutorial/manual would be awsome but any help would be great.
Thanks.

P.S. - Sry for any bad english, not my native language.
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mmm, I'm about to do this swap, and I read the guide in the DIY section and watch 2-3 youtube videos, and I was under the impression that was a plug and play.

swap the screen, headunit, few wiring and that's it. Even the old CCC center console knob is working with the CIC.

I might be wrong, I did not start the retrofit yet.
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Itīs almost swap regarding "hardware", u will just have to change the plug for CID(Display Unit) because it has anopther socket and new Video cable from Head Unit to CID.
Iīll leave here later the pinout for the green plug (Power Supply, GND and CAN L, CAN H) for display
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Hi there,
So Iīve made a CCC Business to CIC Professional retrofit at first I couldnīt find CIC in the ECUīs list but after some research and tips i got it (Removing the 606 from the following modules (CAS and NFRM) and adding the 609 to the same modules (CAS and NFRM) using FA_WRITE worked.
Now Iīm having the following issues:
1- Bluetooth doesnīt work (I believe must be coded but no idea how)
2- In Service status I have a few symbols with no text
3- Navigation is greyed out (Must be coded to VIN and most likely firmware updated to be able to use the patch, I guess my version is C08)
Iīm quite new to all this, did some research in Internet and followed the procedures described in some tutorials. Step by step tutorial/manual would be awsome but any help would be great.
Thanks.

P.S. - Sry for any bad english, not my native language.
Did you change build date to #0909? Add $6VA, FA Write to CAS/NFRM then default code CIC
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      12-19-2023, 05:36 PM   #5
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You might find more info at the following subforums

https://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=27

https://www.e90post.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=122

You might need an FSC code for Nav see the above boards.
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      12-20-2023, 12:23 AM   #6
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Did you change build date to #0909? Add $6VA, FA Write to CAS/NFRM then default code CIC
Yes i did that, as described in the thread.
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      12-20-2023, 02:38 AM   #7
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Yes i did that, as described in the thread.
Clearly.
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      12-20-2023, 06:57 AM   #8
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can you update the thread if you find it please ?
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can you update the thread if you find it please ?
I will for sure do that and in the end (When everything is properly working) Iīll do a DIY regarding this specific retrofit CCC Business to CIC Professional. Theres plenty threads in this Forum regarding CCC to CIC retrofit but no step by step or properly documented (Regarding issues you may have and coding steps). It will take some time since I have to order an ICOM Next (Because in my particulary case I must upgrade my CIC Headunit to the lastest Firmware -> C1A in order to be able to Patch it) and make myself a Power Source for coding (From an Old HP Server Rack, saw some tutorials).
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Damn ure right I didnīt, sry for that :-)

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Did you change build date to #0909? Add $6VA, FA Write to CAS/NFRM then default code CIC
What do you mean by default code CIC? After editing VO doing the SG_Codieren on CIC?

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      12-20-2023, 02:36 PM   #11
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Damn ure right I didnīt, sry for that :-)


What do you mean by default code CIC? After editing VO doing the SG_Codieren on CIC?
Correct

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Go to the coding subforum to learn about coding.
Default coding uses the values in the VO to code modules to be read and coded
to the module you are selecting in Ncsexpert from the VO to the module
you select.

So what is the VO it's the set values loaded into the cars CAS and FRM modules
that has the cars options. (there are redundent sets of values for the VO stored
in the CAS and FRM modules so there are back up copy's if one of those fails.

So to default code anything the VO has to be changed to that if reflects the physical
modules that are in the car.

The other method of coding is to create a man file for that module then code it in
from the file.

Please see coding subforum for more explinations

diagnostic manual ista/inpa
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xo19teM9vkTF-C
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7x8H3pN8h1fMuF
https://bimmerprofs.com/diagnostics-inpa-part-1/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...lkXEhlQYy4i9Nb
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/at...1&d=1590283589
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ista problems
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1661945
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1581663
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/t...-pdfs.1449540/
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Go to the coding subforum to learn about coding.
Default coding uses the values in the VO to code modules to be read and coded
to the module you are selecting in Ncsexpert from the VO to the module
you select.

So what is the VO it's the set values loaded into the cars CAS and FRM modules
that has the cars options. (there are redundent sets of values for the VO stored
in the CAS and FRM modules so there are back up copy's if one of those fails.

So to default code anything the VO has to be changed to that if reflects the physical
modules that are in the car.

The other method of coding is to create a man file for that module then code it in
from the file.

Please see coding subforum for more explinations

diagnostic manual ista/inpa
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...xo19teM9vkTF-C
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...7x8H3pN8h1fMuF
https://bimmerprofs.com/diagnostics-inpa-part-1/
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...lkXEhlQYy4i9Nb
https://www.bimmerforums.com/forum/s...-P-actually-do
https://www.bimmerfest.com/forums/at...1&d=1590283589
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...kBbC27TJLX3BGe
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...WekqhcC6hsgK2c
primary links
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1681573
https://www.nathansbmwworkshop.com/b...or-dean-videos
ista problems
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1661945
https://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1581663
https://www.bimmerfest.com/threads/t...-pdfs.1449540/
Awsome list there! Many Thanks!
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Hi there, Iīve finally received my last item Icom B today, I would like to try to update my CIC head unit tomorrow, I just have a few questions and perhaps someone there could help me. I saw a tutorial here and I would like to confirm if is it ok to follow.
Option 1
0 - Move Car Key to position 2
1 - Connect ICOM B (MOST) to any available MOST (fiber optic) Connector. Connect the USB cable between it and the ICOM module.
2 - Connect OBD connector to ICOM Module.
3 - Connect ICOM to Laptop via Ethernet cable.
4 - Start up Itool Radar and Reserve the ICOM slot. (You'll need to search for ITool Radar).
5 - I usually use the EasyConnect after ITOOL to select the MOST bus ASYNC setting and LOCK Icom.
6 - Start up WINKFP and select comfort mode
7 - Select Update ZUSB
8 - From the list, select CI63F1 first and click OK.
9 - Enter VIN
10 - Click DONE.
11 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
12 - Blue bar will start - This step will take about 35-40 minutes. CIC screen will turn black and cic fan will be blowing at full speed.
13 -Select Update ZUSB again
14 - From the list, select CI62F1 and click OK.
15- Enter VIN
16 - Click DONE.
17 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
18 - This step takes about 7-10 minutes.
19 - Lastly Select Update ZUSB again
20 - From the list, select CIA0F1 and click OK.
21 - Enter VIN
22 - Click DONE.
23 - In Next window, Click PROG-ZUSB.
24 - Screen might come up with BMW symbol and bootloader mode.
25 - This step takes about 45 minutes
And code default cic

Are all the steps ok or am I missing something?
Thanks in advance!

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After struggling with all kinds of issues, I was able to successfully update my CIC Headunit to C1A and enable all features in it (Navigation, BMW Apps,etc) when everything is finish Ill write a tutorial regarding my retrofit procedure
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