[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Dealers are calling asking for people to order. Never happened with previous M’s.

Cooincidentally, I've gotten 3 calls from dealers in my hood that wanted to know if I was interested in ordering the new F90. I said, "so you want me to pay more money for a car that has the same engine as what I've got now?" They hung up.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Love it man. Enjoy in good health. I got spoiled and wanted a great sounding V8 ....getting my 458 clear bra’d ...damn thing sounds good so I get you on the V10

Dude, 458 > 488. You sir have great choice in style.

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Cooincidentally, I've gotten 3 calls from dealers in my hood that wanted to know if I was interested in ordering the new F90. I said, "so you want me to pay more money for a car that has the same engine as what I've got now?" They hung up.

Now that is funny. My guy called my before the thing was released and said I would be first in his list at MSRP. Four doors are getting hard to move now, and I will keep my SUV and drive my stormtrooper.

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Dude, 458 > 488. You sir have great choice in style.

488 ......couldn’t do the turbo man ....I’m living that with the M4. Should have kept the M5 and drive it in the ground, but I did sell high so it worked out. Sold the RS for more than MSRP can’t go wrong with a GT car.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Now that is funny. My guy called my before the thing was released and said I would be first in his list at MSRP. Four doors are getting hard to move now, and I will keep my SUV and drive my stormtrooper.

Gotta bring that top down and let that engine sing! Although I heard it has been snowing in your neck of the woods lately. Haha!

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Gotta bring that top down and let that engine sing! Although I heard it has been snowing in your neck of the woods lately. Haha!

It was bad man .....all good now will drive it this weekend. Not as hard as the RS nor fast, but it’s sounds awesome.

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

This is why BMW in my view has lost their way, screwing customers. This is what Mclaren does to keep revenue flowing, and it just depreciates the last model. All manufactures add better products, but hell you don’t do it before the first is released. This is why I would never buy a first run BMW. I’ve owned a BMW since 1999, and 2018 will be the first year of not having a BMW in my garage in almost 20 years ...damn shame. No way I will drop the coin and you bring out the better car a year later and you could have done it with the current. We all should sit the first year out, and see what they do with all the old cars(:

100% look at M3/4 the CP was universally praised as much much better traction, sound, everything. It was not great for early adopters at all.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by krispykreme

This is the reason I won’t get first year anymore.

Faster and better updates is coming.

I hope you learned this lesson and made this decision back in 2000 or something... ? Remember when the E39 M5 added the halo ring headlights a couple of years in?

There really isn't a lot of advantage to being an early adopter of most items where technology is involved.
If the item is going to be a limited in number or volume, then perhaps.

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

This is why BMW in my view has lost their way, screwing customers. This is what Mclaren does to keep revenue flowing, and it just depreciates the last model. All manufactures add better products, but hell you don’t do it before the first is released. This is why I would never buy a first run BMW. I’ve owned a BMW since 1999, and 2018 will be the first year of not having a BMW in my garage in almost 20 years ...damn shame. No way I will drop the coin and you bring out the better car a year later and you could have done it with the current. We all should sit the first year out, and see what they do with all the old cars(:

LOL at " screwing customers"....

that is SO FUNNY. like a manufacturer has ANY obligation towards past customers other than the WARRANTY. Welcome to the business world?

After TWENTY YEARS OF OWNING BMWs... Just because you haven't learned.. is no reason to blame the manufacturer.

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Yup, I bought a 2015 M4 convertible ........would have waited for the better car had I known. Lesson learned right(:

I would bet serious money that you leased it too, didn't you?

[KevinM]

It's almost like you shouldn't buy an M car when it first debuts. Everyone will be waiting for the inevitable CP to arrive...on the other hand, if you want a bargain, a 2 year old non-CP car after the CP arrives should be a pretty sweet deal.

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by JustChris

100% look at M3/4 the CP was universally praised as much much better traction, sound, everything. It was not great for early adopters at all.

Yup, I bought a 2015 M4 convertible ........would have waited for the better car had I known. Lesson learned right(:

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Yup, I bought a 2015 M4 convertible ........would have waited for the better car had I known. Lesson learned right(:

Same, M4 non ZCP and pre BMW support tooo. Just not much same incentive to get the early version.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Blubaron79

It's the same thing that Apple does; but why can you not just enjoy the car you have?

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

I don’t buy Apple, and yes I do enjoy the cars I have. My point is BMW just started this place a M on everything and push out the new model. This is actually how you kill brand loyalty, and become a commodity. This is BMW’s strategy, and it’s working for them .....it just kills the great M brand they had nothing more.

yeah.. Apple has had an AWFUL time putting their name and logo all over things..

first it was computers

then Phones..
then laptops..
and then Tablets
and now WATCHES...

yeah.. their business is going down the tubes NOW! they've just KILLED their brand loyalty! .

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by M3 Adjuster

yeah.. Apple has had an AWFUL time putting there name and logo all over things..

first it was computers

then Phones..
then laptops
and then Tablets
and now WATCHES...

yeah.. there business is going down the tubes NOW! .

Not sure you heard what I said .....I said I don’t buy Apple. No need I get all their products free. Not buying doesn’t mean I don’t own them. Bro I’m not here to debate with you ........ Apple is not a 6 figure car, and there are tons of choices right. It’s not a disposable product.

[TheRealOrosie]

Originally Posted by JustChris

Same, M4 non ZCP and pre BMW support tooo. Just not much same incentive to get the early version.

I got a 2015 M3 back in Sept 2014...very early adopter. I have had a GT350 for the past year and a half...what does that tell you.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Cooincidentally, I've gotten 3 calls from dealers in my hood that wanted to know if I was interested in ordering the new F90. I said, "so you want me to pay more money for a car that has the same engine as what I've got now?" They hung up.

lol so salty. don't hate. there's always something better out

[Super Spartan]

I've learned my lesson the hard way after having had owned a non-competition pack M4 2017 due to non availability in Dubai then when the competition pack did come in Dubai finally, the prices of the non competition pack cars went down so badly and I lost a lot of money selling it but I'm glad I did, the competition pack is how these cars should've come from the factory in the first place.

[M3 Adjuster]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Not sure you heard what I said .....I said I don’t buy Apple. No need I get all their products free. Not buying doesn’t mean I don’t own them. Bro I’m not here to debate with you ........ Apple is not a 6 figure car, and there are tons of choices right. It’s not a disposable product.

1- I never said you purchased an apple product. glad to hear you get them free, but I never even made a comment about your using their products.

2- I did state facts about Apple products.

3- the facts I stated are not in debate.

Originally Posted by rjd598

lol so salty. don't hate. there's always something better out

4. truth

Moral of the story... From " disposable" Apple phones to " (not disposable?) "$100,000 BMWs to $450,000 McLaren supercars - manufacturers will always bring a new item out.

[BwoodBMW]

I'd buy comp pack if it comes with better wheels that aren't painted black... still blows my mind that there isn't a silver wheel option on this car.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by rjd598

lol so salty. don't hate. there's always something better out

Whose hating? Lol! I've sat in the new F90 already. It's nice, but it's definitely an F10 M5 2.0 rather than being something completely new, different, and innovative like every M5 has been for the past 3 generations. If you want one and can afford one, then by all means have at it. The F90 simply doesn't have what I want in a Sports Sedan right now. Let's see what comes in 2024.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by BwoodBMW

I'd buy comp pack if it comes with better wheels that aren't painted black... still blows my mind that there isn't a silver wheel option on this car.

I think the stock 19" wheels come in silver. Plus the Competition Package will come with different wheels so we'll see what they look like next year.

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Whose hating? Lol! I've sat in the new F90 already. It's nice, but it's definitely an F10 M5 2.0 rather than being something completely new, different, and innovative like every M5 has been for the past 3 generations. If you want one and can afford one, then by all means have at it. The F90 simply doesn't have what I want in a Sports Sedan right now. Let's see what comes in 2024.

don't hold your breath

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by rjd598

don't hold your breath

If you knew what I was doing to my F10, you wouldn't need to worry about me holding my breath.