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I would definitely have ordered my Z4 with a manual had it been available at the time. It's very cool to see these manual Z4's in the wild.
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I don't think the manual will make it to the next generation of M cars given the whole electric movement, but I'll deal with that when the time comes. Charles
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I'd bet the new manuals have a CDV in them. It won't change the pedal force needed but may affect the perception of how smooth it is - which might be perceived as lightness?
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Except for the notoriously sticky 2nd gear.
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Moving parts need to have time to mesh. Tires need to wear off mold release compound from the manufacturing process about 200 miles as well as have a number of heat cycles done. Expect the guys who made the car know more about it than run it like you stole it keyboard racers. The builders are not trying to break your chops keeping you waiting to run & gun but they are trying to reduce warranty claims.
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The S2K clutch isn't heavy at all, and has very short travel. If that's some holy grain of manuals, it kind of proves you don't need a heavy clutch for engagement.
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And increase reliability metrics!
That said, I think these modern engines can handle whatever we throw at them - as long as the drivetrain is properly warmed up and the transmission not abused. Still, I follow all the rules and then some - especially on the M’s. I don’t even do sport + until after break-in. |
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Playing devil’s advocate. If the break in is so important why do I get rental cars with less than 100 miles on the odometer every so often? Don’t the companies care or is it a risk they’re willing to take in order to earn money from mile 1?
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Rental companies sell the cars soon enough that it doesn't matter.
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Never could understand why people seem to have so much trouble with following break-in instructions.
Instant gratification & fueled by lack of self control?
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Potential risk is totally taken by someone who will actually buy a used rental.
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Got a call from my dealer
My MT car will be delivered on Monday. Ill post pics then.
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Congrats can you let me know about the clutch feel, light or heavy and does it have configurable rev match on all modes?
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The 1st thing I want to do is turn on rev matching as no one can do it as better as the car can , I want to know if it can be turned on/off on all modes
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As I mentioned before I do follow the procedures but I have a cuz and very good friend who are “master” techs at Mercedes and Dodge and neither have ever told me an issue boiled down to inappropriate break in. Just makes you wonder. The other side is I’ve heard liability is the reason it’s in there. Who knows.
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We are dealing with that right now at the Cobra site. Guy was tracking his car & lost the engine on a fast long 180. The oil piled up in the corner of the stock oil pan, zero pressure, no more engine. https://thefactoryfiveforum.com/show...360#post553360 My suggestion for next time is the MOROSO trap door pan I use to keep the pickup under the oil level under high G loads. Was not a master dealer mechanic but was a school trained senior tracked vehicle recovery mechanic. Part of the training was rebuilding engines from jeeps to main battle tanks. Our tow trucks.
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