Paris 2018: G20 BMW 330i Luxury Line

IB M · 10-04-2018, 11:40 PM

Those grills seem way too big on the car.

Maybe I'll get used to them with time.

530iDriver · 10-05-2018, 12:25 AM

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Its a shame they removed the knobs to adjust temperture...

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Agreed!

I love to still have the temp knobs in my G30.

While I appreciate the new HVAC design, there is definitely some cost cutting going on there... Only push buttons, smaller LCD display screen, etc.

Very nice car overall. Is a vast improvement over the F30.

Just curious, how is this better looking?? I'm perplexed at best.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

530iDriver · 10-05-2018, 12:42 AM

A few gripes about the interior...

Center console buttons look cheap and too many of them concentrated in one spot

Not sure about the console mounted engine start/stop button

No Sync button for the HVAC controls

No CD Player slot (I can still play CDs in my G30)

Standard steering wheel looks too big

Not feeling the interior door handles

Appreciate the cleaner and minimalistic dash/interior and Hope materials are superior to the F30.

On the fence about the digital dash and iDrive 7.0

bimmer456 · 10-05-2018, 01:22 AM

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I'm confused. Do the new ugly kidney grills not allow for airflow? They look solid.

They have an open and closed setting like the G30 for improved aerodynamics when cooling isn't necessary.

michal12 · 10-05-2018, 02:40 AM

They really went to town with this.
I know it is subjective, but I love how both front and rear bumpers are agressive enough so that M sport version is no longer the only way to go.
I think I saw these wheels in German configurator as one of the M sport wheel option, so it seems one can now cross shop options a bit even between trims

Tallest · 10-05-2018, 03:34 AM

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Originally Posted by TheUltimateDrivingManiac

Somehow 3er Luxury Line looks like cheap Chinese car...

Well, it is aimed at Chinese market in large part, as design suggests.

Language direction certainly is less Teutonic and more Asian. At least to my eye. Very Very similar to what Mercedes started doing with their designs recently. Only Audi to me now looks German in the traditional stereotypical sense of the word.

nozydog · 10-05-2018, 03:41 AM

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its actually the same gray from the last 3 series, mineral gray metallic

It may be, but personally I don’t think the venue lighting would make it appear that light. This looks like a new colour to me!

nozydog · 10-05-2018, 03:48 AM

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They really went to town with this.
I know it is subjective, but I love how both front and rear bumpers are agressive enough so that M sport version is no longer the only way to go.
I think I saw these wheels in German configurator as one of the M sport wheel option, so it seems one can now cross shop options a bit even between trims

Yeh, a lot of people on this forum are dissing the T shaped front air dam inserts, but I actually reckon they look great In these pics and will look even better when the car is in front of you! This is how it is in the original design sketches:

GOLFFRR · 10-05-2018, 05:52 AM

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I am curious to see how the interior materials measure up to the current G30 5-Series.

usually the 3 series is just a little below the 5 series range but this new set up looks pretty legit from the pictures so we will have to wait and see how it looks and feels in person

stein_325i · 10-05-2018, 06:09 AM

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its actually the same gray from the last 3 series, mineral gray metallic

It may be, but personally I don’t think the venue lighting would make it appear that light. This looks like a new colour to me!

The configurator only shows one gray, mineral gray, maybe they changed the shade, but it is the same name of the F30's gray, which in my opinion looks better than the G30 and G01's graphite gray

ChrisK · 10-05-2018, 06:30 AM

The center console is very B & O.

EL Jeffe 5 · 10-05-2018, 07:41 AM

Can we get D shape steering wheel

Rschin2 · 10-05-2018, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cupojava

The gray paint and chrome "T" inserts make the non M-sport way less ugly.

agreed. This is actually a handsome car

Rschin2 · 10-05-2018, 08:16 AM

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. Better bring back Bangle, ASAP.

no thanks

Roch M4 · 10-05-2018, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by shameson

The G20 will have active kidney grills like some of the other newer models. They will automatically open up to improve cooling. Otherwise they are closed for better efficiency.

I'm just wondering how this will work in the cold winter temperature when ice will block the opening of the grill...

cDu8 · 10-05-2018, 09:19 AM

I wish they had an option for a classic instrument cluster layout for the instrument display. I really like the round guages.

BMWRL · 10-05-2018, 09:27 AM

These pics make the new 3er look even better. Love what they did with it

DML · 10-05-2018, 09:28 AM

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Its a shame they removed the knobs to adjust temperture...

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Agreed!

I love to still have the temp knobs in my G30.

While I appreciate the new HVAC design, there is definitely some cost cutting going on there... Only push buttons, smaller LCD display screen, etc.

Very nice car overall. Is a vast improvement over the F30.

Just curious, how is this better looking?? I'm perplexed at best.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

True, but didn't clarify on what makes this "better"

Bimmerforlife · 10-05-2018, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Roch M4

I'm just wondering how this will work in the cold winter temperature when ice will block the opening of the grill...

Very good point!!
Freezing cold temps also will this part fail and how much will it cost to replace out of warranty. Will cars overheat because part failed to open properly?

530iDriver · 10-05-2018, 10:24 AM

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Its a shame they removed the knobs to adjust temperture...

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Agreed!

I love to still have the temp knobs in my G30.

While I appreciate the new HVAC design, there is definitely some cost cutting going on there... Only push buttons, smaller LCD display screen, etc.

Very nice car overall. Is a vast improvement over the F30.

Just curious, how is this better looking?? I'm perplexed at best.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder...

True, but didn't clarify on what makes this "better"

For instance, I never cared for the cheap looking hood line cut over. That is OK on a Mazda 3, but not a car from a premium manufacturer.

Never cared for the front end either.

The interior was cheap and outdated.

Shall I go on?

desertfox73 · 10-05-2018, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracus

So... in a luxury line the back seats get a black plastic instead of a color to match plastic. Looks like shit.
This was never the case in the past and I refused to buy few of the new models just because I always want light interior and the black plastic ruins it for me.
All my past BMW's had matched light colored plastic including the X1 that I still own.
BMW gets cheaper and cheaper.

I’m not sure it’s a ‘cheap’ thing, since I’m guessing BMW could manufacture the colored plastic for the same as black. It’s probably just a bad design (maybe catering to complaints about little kids kicking backs of seats with dirty shoes). I do agree, it’s not attractive and looks cheap though, and it also affects my purchasing decision. Mostly because if I think they’ve not paid attention to that detail, what else have they chosen to not care about.

HighlandPete · 10-05-2018, 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Tracus

So... in a luxury line the back seats get a black plastic instead of a color to match plastic. Looks like shit.
This was never the case in the past and I refused to buy few of the new models just because I always want light interior and the black plastic ruins it for me.
All my past BMW's had matched light colored plastic including the X1 that I still own.
BMW gets cheaper and cheaper.

Don't follow what you are saying. My E91 had lemon leather with black trimmings, like the back of the front seat panel and part of the door trims. Very similar to the G20 shown in the first post.

Nothing to do with being a cheaper product, it was a 'classy' option in the E9x models.

Many users didn't want "all light" interiors.

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