Official Montreal Members Thread

findtom · 07-31-2006, 03:06 PM

I thought the diesel fuel over here was crap or something. It seems like all the diesels this side of the pond run and sound like tractors.

I went for a ride in my cousin's E60 530d in England a couple of years ago. It was really peppy, particularly at higher speeds.

findtom · 07-31-2006, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StewtheBassman

Wow....an X5 with the bi-turbo????Sign me up for one (and constant poverty)!

Hey, if living hand to mouth to keep up with the payments on a luxury SAV is wrong... I don't wanna be right.

Bimmerista · 07-31-2006, 04:15 PM

Yes, the sulphur content is too high in diesels. But in the US, they are rolling out right now diesel fuel with lower sulphur content, and they are supposed to do so in Canada as well.

So as of 2007-2008, the Euro diesel engines (with piezzo DI) can be had here as well. Audi, MB and BMW have all indicated their desire to introduce diesels here (VW of curse is also gonna).

Bimmerista · 07-31-2006, 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by findtom

Hey, if living hand to mouth to keep up with the payments on a luxury SAV is wrong... I don't wanna be right.

Plus, I can make my kids work as child labour to afford the payments - hey I'll even drive them to work on Chabannel in the new x5

(Note to child wellfare agencies: this is a joke)

StewtheBassman · 07-31-2006, 05:15 PM

My wife has been teaching elementary horseback riding lately to little kids....that should cover the monthly interest on a new X5!!

findtom · 07-31-2006, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Bimmerista

Plus, I can make my kids work as child labour to afford the payments - hey I'll even drive them to work on Cabannel in the new x5

(Note to child wellfare agencies: this is a joke)

See, we're brainstorming here.

findtom · 07-31-2006, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by StewtheBassman

My wife has been teaching elementary horseback riding lately to little kids....that should cover the monthly interest on a new X5!!

I think she'd go for that. Just show her the article and explain to her that this isn't just any car purchase, it's an investment for the future. If she brings up any "naysayer" concepts like depreciation or negative equity just cover your ears and go "lalalalalalalalalala."

StewtheBassman · 07-31-2006, 08:55 PM

Ha ha Tom, you are quite the schemer, aren'tyou? Actually, she is the last person to say NO to a new X5!!! She's take it in a heartbeat! It's me who would have the heart attack trying to afford it! One more year, and we can get another CPO X5 from '04 with xDrive, and we'll be good for another 3 years!

StewtheBassman · 07-31-2006, 08:56 PM

Do you guys realize we are up to 51 pages and 1108 posts in this thread?

findtom · 07-31-2006, 11:06 PM

Yup, make that 1110. I sense a book deal coming our way.

Bimmerista · 08-01-2006, 10:42 AM

This is by far the most sucessfull thread out there-go Montrealers.

If we get a book deal, Tom will transpose it on electronic media (or whatever he does....).

StewtheBassman · 08-01-2006, 10:46 AM

He'll turn it into a print that will hang in the MMFA and the Louvre.

StewtheBassman · 08-01-2006, 11:08 AM

Okay guys, what do i do?

The dealership (or BMW or Bridgestone) has offered to pay for half of my replacement tires, since I have approx. 25,000kms on them. I'm not sure how much it's going to be yet.

Do I accept this? The noise only started recently so it's conceivable that I did enjoy flawless perdormance for at least half their life. The implication here though, is that if I pay half, then the effective life of the tire is only 50,000kms?

Or do I try and negotiate a credit on different non-RFT tires? (not likely since it's warranty issue).

Or do I take the deal, buy different tires, install them, and sell the RFTs on eBay?(complicated)

findtom · 08-01-2006, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by StewtheBassman

He'll turn it into a print that will hang in the MMFA and the Louvre.

StewtheBassman · 08-01-2006, 11:30 AM

Not to mention that I have to roll on these crappy tires for another few months before this happens again. Not thrilled about that. I have to talk to Gilles or Michel to try and solve this in a better way.

findtom · 08-01-2006, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by StewtheBassman

Okay guys, what do i do?

The dealership (or BMW or Bridgestone) has offered to pay for half of my replacement tires, since I have approx. 25,000kms on them. I'm not sure how much it's going to be yet.

Do I accept this? The noise only started recently so it's conceivable that I did enjoy flawless perdormance for at least half their life. The implication here though, is that if I pay half, then the effective life of the tire is only 50,000kms?

Or do I try and negotiate a credit on different non-RFT tires? (not likely since it's warranty issue).

Or do I take the deal, buy different tires, install them, and sell the RFTs on eBay?(complicated)

That kind of sucks. I mean, if they replace a transmission on warranty it's not like you pay a percentage of the value for the time it worked properly. Although I suppose it's not a consumable in the same sense as tires.

Still, the fact that you don't actually want a new set of RFTs makes it a pretty lousy deal for you IMO.

StewtheBassman · 08-01-2006, 11:48 AM

Indeed it does. I like your transmission anaolgy, although you're right, trannys can go for hundreds of thousands of kilometres.

Plenty of people here and at bimmerfest are getting into the same range of kms as me, and having similar problems. Maybe I should call Transport Canada.

Bimmerista · 08-01-2006, 12:57 PM

Definately try to negociate a better deal.

Like windshield wipers, tires are expected to wear out and require replacement over time.

However, they are not expected to make the ungodly noise they make as they wear out. Non-RFTs do not start howling after 25ks. Therefore the wear on them already is IRRELEVANT. They are supposed to be quiet until death.

I would use the above as a starting argument for the proposition that they should simply replace them irrespective of wear. (Subsidiarily, you would be willing of course to accept something less than 100% but higher than 50% and this line of argument can only help you get there).

Try my argument-there is logic to it; especially since your rep may know you to be a good customer and that you are loking for another x5....

StewtheBassman · 08-01-2006, 01:05 PM

Thanks Alex, i knew I could count on your lawyer's perspective. I'll see how far I can get with this deal and then try and switch them to 4 regular tires free LOL!

Bimmerista · 08-01-2006, 01:13 PM

Let us know how it goes

findtom · 08-01-2006, 01:40 PM

Bimmerista, I'm going to need your card at the next meet.

findtom · 08-01-2006, 01:43 PM

The other thing I would think you could negociate on is the milleage you'll get out of them. Driving straight ahead on the highway you should get more than 50,000kms. After all your usage up until now (i.e. while the novelty of the car hasn't yet worn off) doesn't really accurately reflect your future, more restrained and mature usage. Right??

07-31-2006, 03:06 PM	#1101
findtom Colonel 129 Rep 2,658 Posts Drives: E60 545i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 545i [0.00]	I thought the diesel fuel over here was crap or something. It seems like all the diesels this side of the pond run and sound like tractors. I went for a ride in my cousin's E60 530d in England a couple of years ago. It was really peppy, particularly at higher speeds.
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07-31-2006, 04:15 PM	#1103
Bimmerista Major General 82 Rep 5,732 Posts Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	Yes, the sulphur content is too high in diesels. But in the US, they are rolling out right now diesel fuel with lower sulphur content, and they are supposed to do so in Canada as well. So as of 2007-2008, the Euro diesel engines (with piezzo DI) can be had here as well. Audi, MB and BMW have all indicated their desire to introduce diesels here (VW of curse is also gonna). Last edited by Bimmerista; 08-01-2006 at 10:38 AM..
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07-31-2006, 05:15 PM	#1105
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	My wife has been teaching elementary horseback riding lately to little kids....that should cover the monthly interest on a new X5!! __________________
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07-31-2006, 08:55 PM	#1108
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Ha ha Tom, you are quite the schemer, aren'tyou? Actually, she is the last person to say NO to a new X5!!! She's take it in a heartbeat! It's me who would have the heart attack trying to afford it! One more year, and we can get another CPO X5 from '04 with xDrive, and we'll be good for another 3 years! __________________
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07-31-2006, 08:56 PM	#1109
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Do you guys realize we are up to 51 pages and 1108 posts in this thread? __________________
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07-31-2006, 11:06 PM	#1110
findtom Colonel 129 Rep 2,658 Posts Drives: E60 545i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 545i [0.00]	Yup, make that 1110. I sense a book deal coming our way.
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08-01-2006, 10:42 AM	#1111
Bimmerista Major General 82 Rep 5,732 Posts Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	This is by far the most sucessfull thread out there-go Montrealers. If we get a book deal, Tom will transpose it on electronic media (or whatever he does....).
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08-01-2006, 10:46 AM	#1112
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	He'll turn it into a print that will hang in the MMFA and the Louvre. __________________
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08-01-2006, 11:08 AM	#1113
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Okay guys, what do i do? The dealership (or BMW or Bridgestone) has offered to pay for half of my replacement tires, since I have approx. 25,000kms on them. I'm not sure how much it's going to be yet. Do I accept this? The noise only started recently so it's conceivable that I did enjoy flawless perdormance for at least half their life. The implication here though, is that if I pay half, then the effective life of the tire is only 50,000kms? Or do I try and negotiate a credit on different non-RFT tires? (not likely since it's warranty issue). Or do I take the deal, buy different tires, install them, and sell the RFTs on eBay?(complicated) __________________
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08-01-2006, 11:30 AM	#1115
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Not to mention that I have to roll on these crappy tires for another few months before this happens again. Not thrilled about that. I have to talk to Gilles or Michel to try and solve this in a better way. __________________
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08-01-2006, 11:48 AM	#1117
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Indeed it does. I like your transmission anaolgy, although you're right, trannys can go for hundreds of thousands of kilometres. Plenty of people here and at bimmerfest are getting into the same range of kms as me, and having similar problems. Maybe I should call Transport Canada. __________________
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08-01-2006, 12:57 PM	#1118
Bimmerista Major General 82 Rep 5,732 Posts Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	Definately try to negociate a better deal. Like windshield wipers, tires are expected to wear out and require replacement over time. However, they are not expected to make the ungodly noise they make as they wear out. Non-RFTs do not start howling after 25ks. Therefore the wear on them already is IRRELEVANT. They are supposed to be quiet until death. I would use the above as a starting argument for the proposition that they should simply replace them irrespective of wear. (Subsidiarily, you would be willing of course to accept something less than 100% but higher than 50% and this line of argument can only help you get there). Try my argument-there is logic to it; especially since your rep may know you to be a good customer and that you are loking for another x5....
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08-01-2006, 01:05 PM	#1119
StewtheBassman Major General 199 Rep 6,381 Posts Drives: 2011 X5d 421,000kms Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Hudson, Quebec iTrader: (1)	Thanks Alex, i knew I could count on your lawyer's perspective. I'll see how far I can get with this deal and then try and switch them to 4 regular tires free LOL! __________________
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08-01-2006, 01:13 PM	#1120
Bimmerista Major General 82 Rep 5,732 Posts Drives: superstock Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada iTrader: (0)	Let us know how it goes
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08-01-2006, 01:40 PM	#1121
findtom Colonel 129 Rep 2,658 Posts Drives: E60 545i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 545i [0.00]	Bimmerista, I'm going to need your card at the next meet.
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08-01-2006, 01:43 PM	#1122
findtom Colonel 129 Rep 2,658 Posts Drives: E60 545i Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Toronto, Canada iTrader: (0) Garage List 2005 545i [0.00]	The other thing I would think you could negociate on is the milleage you'll get out of them. Driving straight ahead on the highway you should get more than 50,000kms. After all your usage up until now (i.e. while the novelty of the car hasn't yet worn off) doesn't really accurately reflect your future, more restrained and mature usage. Right??
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