[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gonzo

"Ford Motor Company is planning to contract technology and software from at least four Chinese firms that supply similar services to the Chinese government and military, and the North Korean government"

Ford has a history of being on the wrong side of issues:
Henry Ford Pioneered Modern Industry, Made America An Economic Power, And Was A Fervent Anti-Semite
Henry Ford is an American icon who was also a Nazi sympathizer with rabid anti-Semitic views. Ford supported one of the most destructive regimes our world has ever seen.
https://allthatsinteresting.com/henry-ford-nazi

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Sadly the 4th graders are going with the EV everytime because the green grifters have scared the bat crap out of them that the world will catch on fire if we don't all drive EV's Ironic isn't it.

No wonder ppl have no common sense or lack of common sense. They properly got brain washed. See the picture below for a laugh

[gonzo]

^
Old man Ford...
Blue Oval Party?

Argument is in there, somewhere.


When the current bus driver does a photo-op with the hard hat on backwards...does anything really matter?

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

On a road that narrows into one lane there was a Tes car next to me that thought I'd let him in before the small island and I held my ground. He didn't like it and falling in behind me honked me a few seconds with his wifey looking like death

Very common in Vancouver especially those white color Tesla

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Very common in Vancouver especially those white color Tesla

Yes, it was a white one here heheh

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Yes, it was a white one here heheh

You both need to import more Red Necks with pick up trucks.
Q: What does the red neck say before running the rude Tesla off the road?
A: Hold my Beer.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

You both need to import more Red Necks with pick up trucks.
Q: What does the red neck say before running the rude Tesla off the road?
A: Hold my Beer.

I'm really trying with the jokes, but I just don't get some of them on the jokes thread as well ..

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

You both need to import more Red Necks with pick up trucks.
Q: What does the red neck say before running the rude Tesla off the road?
A: Hold my Beer.

[eugenebmw]

Less than half of EV owners in Canada are satisfied with their province’s public charging infrastructure. Does the survey tell us something. Our government really need to get the shit together.

https://driving.ca/column/lorraine/c...infrastructure

[M5Rick]

Disabled people are being led up the garden path by uncouth motability dealers misselling EV's that nobody wants.

Beware of the 'pre authorisation charge' before you actually pay for the charge in Rip off Britain. (ROB)

[murderspice]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I'm really trying with the jokes, but I just don't get some of them on the jokes thread as well ..

It means he drinks and drives.

[Car-Addicted]

New electric vehicle battery could recharge in 5 minutes, avoid fires:
January 30, 2024
Nanoelectrofuel flow batteries provide an upgrade from traditional flow batteries by boosting energy density via nanoparticles, IEEE Spectrum magazine reported. Their development is being spurred by the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
The technology is two years away from powering electric vehicles and the wider grid, but it offers advantages over flow and lithium-ion batteries, the latter of which is the standard for EVs and electronic devices.
The battery is “small enough for use in an electric vehicle and energy-dense enough to provide the range and the speedy refill of a gasoline-powered vehicle,” it stated.
John Katsoudas, company co-founder and chief executive officer, told the outlet the technology can store 15 to 25 times as much energy as traditional flow batteries and will be cheaper and last longer. The new batteries may also outpace lithium-ion cells.
The design is fireproof and allows for the quick replacement of used nanofluid — an incredible 400 liters (106 gallons) in five minutes, IEEE Spectrum reported. Those factors are driving the military’s involvement, which in turn is coming from deadlines of 2030 and 2050 to use electric supply vehicles and electric tactical vehicles.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-te...ries-ev-power/

Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium?
24 Dec 2023
As she drives her electric vehicle to her mother’s house, Monique’s battery gauge indicates that it’s time to reenergize. She stops at a charging station, taps her credit card at the pump, inserts a nozzle into the car, and in 5 minutes exchanges 400 liters of spent nanofluid for fresher stuff. As she waits, a tanker pulls up to refill the station itself by exchanging tens of thousands of liters of charged for spent fuel. Monique closes her EV’s fueling port and heads onto the highway with enough stored energy to drive 640 kilometers (400 miles).


The battery can be recharged in two ways: The two solutions can be charged in place by a current moving in the opposite direction, the way conventional batteries are charged, or the spent solutions can be replaced with charged ones.
Besides beating lithium batteries in performance and safety, flow batteries also scale up more easily: If you want to store more energy, just increase the size of the solution storage tanks or the concentration of the solutions.
Additionally, because the nanoelectrofuel is an aqueous suspension, it did not catch fire or explode, nor would the material be hazardous if the battery were to leak. The battery possessed a wide operational range of between -40 °C and 80 °C.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/flow-battery-2666672335

Interesting, amazing what the free market can do with a little help from DARPA. Several issues I see, weight of fuel alone, 106 gallons at 8.33lbs per gallon or 882.98 lbs of fuel. We are in heavy truck fuel loads here. While we are at it. This would require yet another completely new distribution and manufacturing system as well as increase in transportation costs from two way requirements. Looks like the free market will once again prove the government tax spenders are wasting billions of tax payer dollars on technology that will be found on the trash heap of bad ideas in the future.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

New electric vehicle battery could recharge in 5 minutes, avoid fires:
January 30, 2024
Nanoelectrofuel flow batteries provide an upgrade from traditional flow batteries by boosting energy density via nanoparticles, IEEE Spectrum magazine reported. Their development is being spurred by the U.S. Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency.
The technology is two years away from powering electric vehicles and the wider grid, but it offers advantages over flow and lithium-ion batteries, the latter of which is the standard for EVs and electronic devices.
The battery is “small enough for use in an electric vehicle and energy-dense enough to provide the range and the speedy refill of a gasoline-powered vehicle,” it stated.
John Katsoudas, company co-founder and chief executive officer, told the outlet the technology can store 15 to 25 times as much energy as traditional flow batteries and will be cheaper and last longer. The new batteries may also outpace lithium-ion cells.
The design is fireproof and allows for the quick replacement of used nanofluid — an incredible 400 liters (106 gallons) in five minutes, IEEE Spectrum reported. Those factors are driving the military’s involvement, which in turn is coming from deadlines of 2030 and 2050 to use electric supply vehicles and electric tactical vehicles.
https://www.thecooldown.com/green-te...ries-ev-power/

Can Flow Batteries Finally Beat Lithium?
24 Dec 2023
As she drives her electric vehicle to her mother’s house, Monique’s battery gauge indicates that it’s time to reenergize. She stops at a charging station, taps her credit card at the pump, inserts a nozzle into the car, and in 5 minutes exchanges 400 liters of spent nanofluid for fresher stuff. As she waits, a tanker pulls up to refill the station itself by exchanging tens of thousands of liters of charged for spent fuel. Monique closes her EV’s fueling port and heads onto the highway with enough stored energy to drive 640 kilometers (400 miles).


The battery can be recharged in two ways: The two solutions can be charged in place by a current moving in the opposite direction, the way conventional batteries are charged, or the spent solutions can be replaced with charged ones.
Besides beating lithium batteries in performance and safety, flow batteries also scale up more easily: If you want to store more energy, just increase the size of the solution storage tanks or the concentration of the solutions.
Additionally, because the nanoelectrofuel is an aqueous suspension, it did not catch fire or explode, nor would the material be hazardous if the battery were to leak. The battery possessed a wide operational range of between -40 °C and 80 °C.
https://spectrum.ieee.org/flow-battery-2666672335

Interesting, amazing what the free market can do with a little help from DARPA. Several issues I see, weight of fuel alone, 106 gallons at 8.33lbs per gallon or 882.98 lbs of fuel. We are in heavy truck fuel loads here. While we are at it. This would require yet another completely new distribution and manufacturing system as well as increase in transportation costs from two way requirements. Looks like the free market will once again prove the government tax spenders are wasting billions of tax payer dollars on technology that will be found on the trash heap of bad ideas in the future.

More wastage of public money to be considered if actioned, when will this madness stop.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

More wastage of public money to be considered if actioned, when will this madness stop.

To save the earth, we just need to grow more money trees

[eugenebmw]

Is the government really thinking about saving the world or they just want to keep spending money. One thing for sure, we need to grow more money trees

If the city is bleeding money it isn’t sensible to spend unnecessarily on EV firetrucks. A lot of homeless people could be housed for those millions.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ed-theres-fire

[eugenebmw]

It touch on everything about EVs. Lots of interesting facts

https://www.city-journal.org/article...ctric-vehicles

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Is the government really thinking about saving the world or they just want to keep spending money. One thing for sure, we need to grow more money trees

If the city is bleeding money it isn’t sensible to spend unnecessarily on EV firetrucks. A lot of homeless people could be housed for those millions.

https://torontosun.com/opinion/colum...ed-theres-fire

Things like this come to my mind a lot every time they talk about their 'net zero' nonsense.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

It touch on everything about EVs. Lots of interesting facts

https://www.city-journal.org/article...ctric-vehicles

Pipboy says it all at the end of the article.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Pipboy says it all at the end of the article.

My point against EVs is very simple. At this point of time, the move to EVs is largely political and taxpayer money. If you own one and you bought it with your own money, I don't care.

[M3WC]

With EV Demand Soft, GM CEO Says The Company Will Offer Plug-In Hybrid Models In The US


https://jalopnik.com/with-ev-demand-...fer-1851209262

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by M3WC

With EV Demand Soft, GM CEO Says The Company Will Offer Plug-In Hybrid Models In The US

Yet another Mary Barra failure She really needs to run for public office with her record.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

To save the earth, we just need to tax everyone except the 1% more

Fixed it for you