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      12-05-2019, 08:15 AM   #309
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If that's the case then I'd get a low mileage 340 or 335 which will cost much lower than the new M235. This name tag puts to shame the original M235 with the N55 I6.
I thought N55 has reliability issue?
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So I guess the M235 GC is competitively priced with the S3 (although that actually starts at $43000), but to be honest if I was going to buy a FWD based car I would just get the Golf R or the Golf GTI for that matter rather than this and save a good chunk of change.
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      12-05-2019, 11:59 AM   #311
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So I guess the M235 GC is competitively priced with the S3 (although that actually starts at $43000), but to be honest if I was going to buy a FWD based car I would just get the Golf R or the Golf GTI for that matter rather than this and save a good chunk of change.
Golf R is 40k. Not really saving that much...
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If that's the case then I'd get a low mileage 340 or 335 which will cost much lower than the new M235. This name tag puts to shame the original M235 with the N55 I6.
I thought N55 has reliability issue?
I had n55 for 6 years and no problems. I'm going on 2 years with my second. I know that's only a sample size of 1 but I thought the n54 was the one with problems (fuel pump?).
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      12-06-2019, 01:30 PM   #313
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First thought was how hideous this car was.

After looking at some IRL pics, I regretfully have to say this car WILL BE a hit.

Think about it-m badge on a $40k car with a brand new design. Not only will it stick out amongst all other bmws (even G20), but it also has more power than the f30 20/28.

I don't like it right away, but I'm sure it will grow on Me. This is obviously the look the market is going for and I think BMWs first attempt is actually quite good.
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      12-06-2019, 01:30 PM   #314
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First thought was how hideous this car was.

After looking at some IRL pics, I regretfully have to say this car WILL BE a hit.

Think about it-m badge on a $40k car with a brand new design. Not only will it stick out amongst all other bmws (even G20), but it also has more power than the f30 20/28.

I don't like it right away, but I'm sure it will grow on Me. This is obviously the look the market is going for and I think BMWs first attempt is actually quite good.
Yeah I agree. Bmws are funny that way. At first you hate everything about it. Then slowly they tend to grow on you. I hated the G20s new kidney grills. Now I like them a lot. They're unique.
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      12-06-2019, 05:03 PM   #315
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Oh wow it's looks terrible from front. Looks like a Kia.
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      12-11-2019, 02:16 PM   #316
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I'm REALLY curious to see how well this car sells.
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I'm REALLY curious to see how well this car sells.
No explanation but I'll bet it sells surprisingly well for what it is.
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      12-11-2019, 03:08 PM   #318
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No explanation but I'll bet it sells surprisingly well for what it is.
maybe not in the US but I think world wide this should sell
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maybe not in the US but I think world wide this should sell
My reasoning is not everyone has the need/desire to drive an oversized sedan, hence the selling point
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      12-12-2019, 01:49 AM   #320
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I'm REALLY curious to see how well this car sells.
Hard to say actually.

Sedans are selling in low numbers for the most part.

Now if BMW Electrify's it, I have no doubt it will sell like there is no tomorrow.
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      12-12-2019, 05:31 AM   #321
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No explanation but I'll bet it sells surprisingly well for what it is.
Seems like every second car on the road is a MB CLA. BMW is going to sell a lot of the 2 GC, at least here in Canada, where the Honda Civic has been the number 1 in sales for about 20 years straight.
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going to sell tons of these IMO
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Maybe the last BMW with a "normal" grille.
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      12-12-2019, 04:10 PM   #325
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Hard to say actually.

Sedans are selling in low numbers for the most part.

Now if BMW Electrify's it, I have no doubt it will sell like there is no tomorrow.
I'm not one to kick an ICE engine out for electric. But a 4 banger FWD biased car sounds about as appealing with a BMW badge as any comparable Toyota or Honda. So I encourage this to go full electric.
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Seems like every second car on the road is a MB CLA. BMW is going to sell a lot of the 2 GC, at least here in Canada, where the Honda Civic has been the number 1 in sales for about 20 years straight.
I agree
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      12-12-2019, 05:56 PM   #327
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I'm not one to kick an ICE engine out for electric. But a 4 banger FWD biased car sounds about as appealing with a BMW badge as any comparable Toyota or Honda. So I encourage this to go full electric.
Dont hate until you drive. 302hp in a 3700lb vehicle and AWD is fun as hell in my X2. This engine is strong and I am sure they will tune it further than mine is in the current MY.

Its amazing to me that so many (not OP per se) will accept a front drive biased electric car, but wont give the Roundel and M the benefit of the doubt that perhaps they can build a small AWD car thats fun as hell.

F* the electrics already, i dont want a toy car no matter how fast the acceleration

no Sound = no Soul
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Anyone know what current tunes are out for this engine?

I hate how big the 3 Series are getting. This looks like a good urban city car.
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Anyone know what current tunes are out for this engine?

I hate how big the 3 Series are getting. This looks like a good urban city car.
There are lots of B48 tunes. JB is one of them.
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      12-12-2019, 09:09 PM   #330
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Dont hate until you drive. 302hp in a 3700lb vehicle and AWD is fun as hell in my X2. This engine is strong and I am sure they will tune it further than mine is in the current MY.

Its amazing to me that so many (not OP per se) will accept a front drive biased electric car, but wont give the Roundel and M the benefit of the doubt that perhaps they can build a small AWD car thats fun as hell.

F* the electrics already, i dont want a toy car no matter how fast the acceleration

no Sound = no Soul
I've driven plenty of FWD cars with plenty of power. And no 4 banger sounds good IMO. Im almost certain bmw did a great job with the X2 but I just wish it wasn't the configuration it was is all.
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