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      10-17-2019, 04:48 PM   #243
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Renault Megan RS Hatch.
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Looks wise infinitely better for me.
Where is the pix Chris?
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I'm not seriously considering this car; and I do think BMW makes better looking vehicles, but these just aren't bad facts about the M235i. IMO the upcoming buck-toothed 4 Series has far more potential to inspire vomiting than this thing. I'd let my girl drive an M235i if she liked it.

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Taking it to extremes.

Renault Megan RS Hatch.
280Hp 6MT flared when arches.
Renault interior though.
Looks wise infinitely better for me.
Where is the pix Chris?
Tried about 5 times to add it. App wasn't having it all and still isn't!

I've seen it in the metal and whisky it's a competitor for the M135i being a hatch, my point is a 'lesser' brand is IMHO making a much nicer car. Tech and interior is not close to BMW but it's a beautiful beefed up little hatch.

Search RS Mégane. All the launch cars are LiquidYellow and Volcanic Orange. The wheel/fender flares remind me of the M2.
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They're... Look at CLA sales.
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Taking it to extremes.

Renault Megan RS Hatch.
280Hp 6MT flared when arches.
Renault interior though.
Looks wise infinitely better for me.
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Tried about 5 times to add it. App wasn't having it all and still isn't!

I've seen it in the metal and whisky it's a competitor for the M135i being a hatch, my point is a 'lesser' brand is IMHO making a much nicer car. Tech and interior is not close to BMW but it's a beautiful beefed up little hatch.

Search RS Mégane. All the launch cars are LiquidYellow and Volcanic Orange. The wheel/fender flares remind me of the M2.
I completely understand.

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I'm not seriously considering this car; and I do think BMW makes better looking vehicles, but these just aren't bad facts about the M235i. IMO the upcoming buck-toothed 4 Series has far more potential to inspire vomiting than this thing. I'd let my girl drive an M235i if she liked it.

301 HP / 332 lb-ft
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50/50 capable AWD system
Limited-Slip Differential
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Active Cruise Control system with Stop & Go
People are getting caught up with the looks but the M235i checks a lot of boxes in regards to compact car performance and AWD with an LSD. It's in a dead heat with cars like the Golf R and STI in performance so if you ever have to drive your girlfriend's car at least you could have a good time with it.
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I'm not seriously considering this car; and I do think BMW makes better looking vehicles, but these just aren't bad facts about the M235i. IMO the upcoming buck-toothed 4 Series has far more potential to inspire vomiting than this thing. I'd let my girl drive an M235i if she liked it.

301 HP / 332 lb-ft
0-60 in 4.6 seconds
50/50 capable AWD system
Limited-Slip Differential
HUD (not available even on an M2)
Active Cruise Control system with Stop & Go
by the way does it have a real LSD or it's "brake simulated LSD"
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Not sure if I understand the need for such a small car getting four doors. Must say they are getting some good power from the 4 cylinder though
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I'm not seriously considering this car; and I do think BMW makes better looking vehicles, but these just aren't bad facts about the M235i. IMO the upcoming buck-toothed 4 Series has far more potential to inspire vomiting than this thing. I'd let my girl drive an M235i if she liked it.

301 HP / 332 lb-ft
0-60 in 4.6 seconds
50/50 capable AWD system
Limited-Slip Differential
HUD (not available even on an M2)
Active Cruise Control system with Stop & Go
by the way does it have a real LSD or it's "brake simulated LSD"
On the first page of this very thread you'll find the following datapoint:

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New Kia ! Lol see badge and grill in the front
Not even the new one (which looks better - particularly from the rear), but the old 3rd gen one!

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I'm not seriously considering this car; and I do think BMW makes better looking vehicles, but these just aren't bad facts about the M235i. IMO the upcoming buck-toothed 4 Series has far more potential to inspire vomiting than this thing. I'd let my girl drive an M235i if she liked it.

301 HP / 332 lb-ft
0-60 in 4.6 seconds
50/50 capable AWD system
Limited-Slip Differential
HUD (not available even on an M2)
Active Cruise Control system with Stop & Go
No one is questioning the technical side of this vehicle. The design aspect is what in question as well as the bin parts approach to their interiors.
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Not sure if I understand the need for such a small car getting four doors. Must say they are getting some good power from the 4 cylinder though
...do you recall a car that went by internal code e46....

And yes, this powertrain is surprisingly strong and will be lots of fun in a car this size.
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I'm not seriously considering this car; and I do think BMW makes better looking vehicles, but these just aren't bad facts about the M235i. IMO the upcoming buck-toothed 4 Series has far more potential to inspire vomiting than this thing. I'd let my girl drive an M235i if she liked it.

301 HP / 332 lb-ft
0-60 in 4.6 seconds
50/50 capable AWD system
Limited-Slip Differential
HUD (not available even on an M2)
Active Cruise Control system with Stop & Go
No one is questioning the technical side of this vehicle. The design aspect is what in question as well as the bin parts approach to their interiors.
But I think some are ignoring the technical aspects. I wonder if they even got past looking at the pictures.
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Not sure if I understand the need for such a small car getting four doors. Must say they are getting some good power from the 4 cylinder though
...do you recall a car that went by internal code e46....

And yes, this powertrain is surprisingly strong and will be lots of fun in a car this size.
Good point. I guess I am forgetting how each generation keeps getting bigger.
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Not even the new one (which looks better - particularly from the rear), but the old 3rd gen one!

The Kia looks better and has a more cohesive design with BMW hallmark's, like the Hofmeister Kink and Zicker line! It drives like crap though!
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All due respect, I cant seem to understand people who are solely focused on performance figures.

How can you buy something you don't like looking at??

This is the ugliest car produced by bmw since the 3 GT.

I'd venture to say it's arguably the ugliest design produced by a premium automotive brand in the last 24 months.
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Not sure if I understand the need for such a small car getting four doors. Must say they are getting some good power from the 4 cylinder though
...do you recall a car that went by internal code e46....

And yes, this powertrain is surprisingly strong and will be lots of fun in a car this size.
Ehhhhh! That car was considered to be a bloated pig when it debuted; enthusiasts cried foul. It's funny that now it's touted as being small and lightweight.
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No way, the e46 is one of the most beautiful designs bmw has ever offered, i loved it the moment I saw it and it was my first brand new bmw so itíll always be special.

And since you luv and fight to the death over the buck tooth bandit, you have no say in these matters!
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No way, the e46 is one of the most beautiful designs bmw has ever offered, i loved it the moment I saw it and it was my first brand new bmw so it'll always be special.

And since you luv and fight to the death over the buck tooth bandit, you have no say in these matters!
Yes way! Go back and look at the comments on E46Fanatics back in 2000/2001-ish. I was one of the early adopters of the E46 330ci and ///M3; I was also one of the first who experienced the rod bearing/blown S54 motor issue(s). I clearly remember what was said back then because I always found myself defending the E46. Just because I welcome change doesn't erode what is fact.
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Yes way! Go back and look at the comments on E46Fanatics back in 2000/2001-ish. I was one of the early adopters of the E46 330ci and ///M3; I was also one of the first who experienced the rod bearing/blown S54 motor issue(s). I clearly remember what was said back then because I always found myself defending the E46. Just because I welcome change doesn't erode what is fact.
Absolutely true - all the old 2002 and e30 owners cried fowl at the size of the e46. Now it's seen as the last of the small 3 series, but it wasn't at the time.

There was a cartoon doing the rounds on the net back then portraying the e21 as a young, thin Elvis, the e30 as Elvis at his peak, the e36 with Elvis in a 70's onesie, and then ending with an e46 as fat Elvis Just had a quick dig on google to see if I could find it, but it didn't show up in an image search. Still, with the size of "small" cars now, my e92 is even starting to look small!
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