[Dog Face Pony Soldier]

Originally Posted by mantis

well looks like shits getting deep around us, so time to get armed.

looking to acquire a assault rifle type, shotty, and couple pistols, but would like to get buildable platforms.

looking for advice, and what not

Popular choices:
Glock pistol
Remington 870 shotgun
Lots of AR choices but maybe Springfield Saint series is a good starter.

[Dpc2u]

Swapped optics to a Vortex Strikefire 2 and Vortex micro magnifier with quick release flip mount. Need to get it zeroed in and a few rounds down range.

[Smgs1992]

Originally Posted by mantis

well looks like shits getting deep around us, so time to get armed.

looking to acquire a assault rifle type, shotty, and couple pistols, but would like to get buildable platforms.

looking for advice, and what not

I forget cali’s mag capacity limit but you can’t go wrong with a glock for a first handgun.
Get a remington 870 for a shotgun.
There’s plenty of good AR15s cant go wrong with an AK47 either or if youre more budgeted a SKS is a good option

[KenB925]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

I forget cali’s mag capacity limit but you can’t go wrong with a glock for a first handgun.
Get a remington 870 for a shotgun.
There’s plenty of good AR15s cant go wrong with an AK47 either or if youre more budgeted a SKS is a good option

At least for now, the CA Magazine limit is overruled! Mag limit.

[devondragon]

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[mantis]

Originally Posted by Smgs1992

I forget cali’s mag capacity limit but you can’t go wrong with a glock for a first handgun.
Get a remington 870 for a shotgun.
There’s plenty of good AR15s cant go wrong with an AK47 either or if youre more budgeted a SKS is a good option

these MPs seem pretty buildable.

dont know if going with 5.56 will make ammo harder or easier to get

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Had to get something else to shoot since my AR got banned... went with a pistol this time!

Glock 17 Gen 4 FDE

[mantis]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Had to get something else to shoot since my AR got banned... went with a pistol this time!

Glock 17 Gen 4 FDE

did you guys get hit with mag laws too

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by mantis

did you guys get hit with mag laws too

Well it's always been 10 bullets for pistols and 5 for rifles here for a while here.

[mantis]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Well it's always been 10 bullets for pistols and 5 for rifles here for a while here.

i was happy to hear that my state did the right thing and stayed that mag ruling. criminals have full auto weapons here, can i at least compete

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by mantis

i was happy to hear that my state did the right thing and stayed that mag ruling. criminals have full auto weapons here, can i at least compete

Yeah I'm in Canada so our gun laws are federal and with the bullshit Trudeau is doing now I'm afraid is gonna get worse.

Went with a pistol for now until the political climate changes or see what happens since they vow to ban "military style assault" weapons, whatever the fuck that actually means or stands for lol.

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by mantis

these MPs seem pretty buildable.

dont know if going with 5.56 will make ammo harder or easier to get

Mantis, you've got a few things working against you right now:

1. Gun buying fever nationwide. Hard to find some guns right now.
2. Ammo buying fever, also. If you can find ammo, the price might be high.
3. You're in California. You'll have fewer options for guns and ammo and you'll pay higher prices for what you can get.
4. If you want to carry a concealed firearm, California makes it difficult to get the required permit.

You said you want an AR15 type rifle, but California has severely restricted what you are allowed to buy. I don't know all of the laws there, but you won't be able to get an AR15 with all of the features and options that residents of other states can get.

California also restricts handguns by requiring manufacturers to meet certain requirements. Not all manufacturers bother with trying to make all of their guns California-compliant, so you won't have as many options available. There are still plenty of choices for you, but the exact make and model you want might not be available in California.

I'm pretty sure California has banned all mail-order ammo sales. I think all ammo sales have to go through a dealer now, which just makes buying ammo more expensive and cumbersome.

If you want to get a concealed carry license, you may have a bunch of hoops to jump through. California is a "may issue" state which means they may or may not issue you a license, but they don't have to. From what I've read, it varies greatly by location. More rural/conservative areas are more likely to issue the permits, whereas places like San Francisco will never give a permit to a regular citizen.

All of the above is from what I've read/heard from other people, so some of it may be wrong. Go check out California-specific gun forums, such as https://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/index.php to get more and better info.

Good luck.

[mantis]

Originally Posted by TheMidnightNarwhal

Yeah I'm in Canada so our gun laws are federal and with the bullshit Trudeau is doing now I'm afraid is gonna get worse.

Went with a pistol for now until the political climate changes or see what happens since they vow to ban "military style assault" weapons, whatever the fuck that actually means or stands for lol.

yeah that is all sucking up there, hope you guys get that fixed.

MSA ban arent all guns used in war?

[devondragon]

Originally Posted by mantis

these MPs seem pretty buildable.

dont know if going with 5.56 will make ammo harder or easier to get

All ammo is hard to get right now, and much more expensive than normal. That said, I've had better luck getting 5.56 than pretty much anything else (9mm, .300 blk, .50 bmg, etc...). I've been able to get Federal and IMI in large quantities over the past couple of months.

[TheMidnightNarwhal]

Originally Posted by mantis

MSA ban arent all guns used in war?

Honestly I don't know it's not really clear. I guess if you look at the bans yes. But at the same time they ban things like the CZ Scorpion but not the Kriss vector. I don't see the logic.

Or they wait for now because they know they can't buyback everything they would want to ban is a another theory I have.

[mantis]

Originally Posted by devondragon

All ammo is hard to get right now, and much more expensive than normal. That said, I've had better luck getting 5.56 than pretty much anything else (9mm, .300 blk, .50 bmg, etc...). I've been able to get Federal and IMI in large quantities over the past couple of months.

well then, 5.56 it is, dare i even ask about 7.62

[devondragon]

Originally Posted by mantis

well then, 5.56 it is, dare i even ask about 7.62

At the moment I don't have a 7.62/.308 I'm shooting much of (I'm digging 6.5 creedmoor), so I'm not sure....

[mantis]

Originally Posted by devondragon

At the moment I don't have a 7.62/.308 I'm shooting much of (I'm digging 6.5 creedmoor), so I'm not sure....

someone had mentioned SKS thats why i asked about it.

[devondragon]

Originally Posted by mantis

someone had mentioned SKS thats why i asked about it.

It's a good round no question. Although I personally prefer the AR-10 platform to the SKS or AK platforms. And lately my AR-10s are in 6.5 cm

The problem with the gun world (although also true with the car world, etc...) is that 1,000 guys will have 1,000 differing opinions (and often defend them angrily). On the upside, really there's lots of good answers, and only a few bad ones.

[TheWatchGuy]

Originally Posted by mantis

well then, 5.56 it is, dare i even ask about 7.62

i can usually find cases of 7.62 locally

556 on the other hand, i havent been able to find a case in over a month. have to resort to online and its 60 cents a round + for most

been debating building an ar10 or ak for that reason a lone.

[devondragon]

Yeah, 50-60 cents a round is pretty common these days. Not fun. But yeah I look online (crow shooting supply, midway, buikammo, ammo seek, etc...). I'm also a bit picky about what brands I'll run, which makes it harder. But I have a few thousand rounds of 5.56 currently which is nice. I can't find 9mm online anywhere, but my local shop got some in yesterday and I was able to get some. Crazy times!

[Fly320s]

Originally Posted by mantis

someone had mentioned SKS thats why i asked about it.

The SKS is normally chambered in 7.62x39mm, a Soviet/Russian designed cartridge. The 7.62x51 (.308 Winchester) is American designed. They are different cartridges and are not interchangeable.

There may be an SKS that shoots 7.62x51 (.308), but it would be rare I think. The more common alternative to the standard Russian 7.62x39 is the Russian 5.45x39, which is the standard ammo for the AK-74. There are plenty of AK-type rifles available in both the 7.62x39 and 5.45x39 as well as other cartridges including the American 5.56x45 and others.

None of the above cartridges will work in place of the others. You can not substitute a Russian 5.45 for an American 5.56.

As a general guidline, Russian designed guns and ammo are lower quality and lower cost than American designed guns and ammo.