[!Xoible]

yah dude.. those are real shiny.. i was thinking of installing them on top of the hood. it's a waste to have them covered

maybe i'll buy one for a necklace chain or something next to my 20" clock that hangs off my neck kakaka

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Riss Racing

I'll tell you what. If you can get true 3in downpipes to fit on your car mandrel bent. I will give you a set of DP free. Because if you do a one off job like this it will cost you 3k min. You can quote me on this. IF YOU HAVE A GUY TO GET 3IN TO FIT. MANDREL BENT. I WILL GIVE YOU A FREE SET OF DP. Also group buy price is at 799.


They are just little pieces of metal. Go bend up up should be no problem to get a free set of DP.

[doba_s]

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[E90ice]

When will the group buy start and how long after that can we expect the product to arrive at our doors?

I email you a couple of times, but no response. It is just me or most vendors on this forum have NO customer service skills?

[!Xoible]

Originally Posted by E90ice

When will the group buy start and how long after that can we expect the product to arrive at our doors?

I email you a couple of times, but no response. It is just me or most vendors on this forum have NO customer service skills?

best thing is to buy some mod and cruise down to charlie's to install it. you will get all your questions answered

[normtrum]

Originally Posted by mantis

best thing is to buy some mod and cruise down to charlie's to install it. you will get all your questions answered

Ya I wish Charlie lived up here. It's a bit of a drive for me to get to him! He is def the man when it comes to installations

[sambonator]

When will we see pics of the finished product?

[Adam@Riss Racing]

Originally Posted by sambonator

When will we see pics of the finished product?

Almost too soon, we promise. We should be getting the polishedout to you within a few days. PLEASE hang in there for us, you will not be disappointed. Thanks.

[abmw]

These look great but I'm having a hard time believing that you wouldn't test them with procede v 1.45 since you have it. (You know you did!!) Maybe I missed something with 51 pages of posts but I find it extremely hard to believe that you didn't test with procede. Maybe the results weren't so great with v1.45 installed. Also, there are absolutely no posts from Shiv. Has he been in contact with you? Will there be a custom map for these or is this unwelcome competition? I wasn't able to find it but have you had a chance to test with v2.0??

Sorry, these are honest questions. Things aren't adding up!

[stressdoc]

I forget, how much $ for the catted version? Looks like really nice work, hopefully these will help with any overheating of the DPs associated with higher power output from use of piggybacks.

[abmw]

Originally Posted by abmw

These look great but I'm having a hard time believing that you wouldn't test them with procede v 1.45 since you have it. (You know you did!!) Maybe I missed something with 51 pages of posts but I find it extremely hard to believe that you didn't test with procede. Maybe the results weren't so great with v1.45 installed. Also, there are absolutely no posts from Shiv. Has he been in contact with you? Will there be a custom map for these or is this unwelcome competition? I wasn't able to find it but have you had a chance to test with v2.0??

Sorry, these are honest questions. Things aren't adding up!

No comment?

[Lee Rambler]

still nothing?

[!Xoible]

the myth of the down pipes

[onefastdoc]

Originally Posted by Moth

Are you serious? Have you read any of the threads on the 335i downppipes? If you did, you probably would understand why they cost more than the simple Jap car downpipes you mention. Some downpipes for Evos are $150 and others are $300+. They are all simple pipes that yield the same hp and tq. Why the price difference? Construction, longevity, R&D, materials, customer service. These are not simple little Jap cars. Germans think differently and dont believe in simple design. Makes the aftermarket parts manufacturer's job a lil' harder. If you get the design wrong, you end up with + 5whp and tq. If you get it right, then you end up like Vishnu, with the market on LOCKDOWN!

Simple Jap cars? What, are you from the south or something. So you are telling me that the RB26DETT Skyline engine and 2JZGTE Supra engine are simple Jap engines that aren't as sophisticated as German engines. Okay, keep dreaming. Anyway, both are inline sixes, both use downpipes that aren't any more sophisticated than the N54 engine, and these downpipes are half the cost of the RISS downpipes. Regardless, I can understand the inflated price. It's the same reason why an exhaust that adds no horsepower for the Carrera GT costs $10,000. But what gets me is that you somehow think "German" cars are inherently better than "Jap" (and I would prefer the term Japanese) cars. You do realize that the GTR was banned from Group A racing because it won the championship year after year, beating all the German manufacturers. You do realize that for reliability, Honda rates number one, and that the Germans, though much better than they have been in the past, are still not in the top 5. Do I love German cars, of course. I'd buy a Porsche or BMW in a heartbeat, but I would never be so ignorant as to think they are better than "simple Jap cars." If the N54 engine can handle 500hp with simple bolt ons and not blow up, you can then say it is at least as good as the RB26 or 2JZ engines. However, given the fact that they have overheating problems bone stock, I doubt that's going to happen. Simple Jap cars, that's just amazing. Make sure you fly your confederate flag high.

[335boosted2Dmax]

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

Simple Jap cars? What, are you from the south or something. So you are telling me that the RB26DETT Skyline engine and 2JZGTE Supra engine are simple Jap engines that aren't as sophisticated as German engines. Okay, keep dreaming. Anyway, both are inline sixes, both use downpipes that aren't any more sophisticated than the N54 engine, and these downpipes are half the cost of the RISS downpipes. Regardless, I can understand the inflated price. It's the same reason why an exhaust that adds no horsepower for the Carrera GT costs $10,000. But what gets me is that you somehow think "German" cars are inherently better than "Jap" (and I would prefer the term Japanese) cars. You do realize that the GTR was banned from Group A racing because it won the championship year after year, beating all the German manufacturers. You do realize that for reliability, Honda rates number one, and that the Germans, though much better than they have been in the past, are still not in the top 5. Do I love German cars, of course. I'd buy a Porsche or BMW in a heartbeat, but I would never be so ignorant as to think they are better than "simple Jap cars." If the N54 engine can handle 500hp with simple bolt ons and not blow up, you can then say it is at least as good as the RB26 or 2JZ engines. However, given the fact that they have overheating problems bone stock, I doubt that's going to happen. Simple Jap cars, that's just amazing. Make sure you fly your confederate flag high.

Relax guy......................not worth to get worked up over this, some people just think instantaneously of a Honda civic when you say "Jap" cars and not a GTR which is a beast in itself, I mean I would love to own a skyline

But alot of people on this board do have alot of love for their 335i's and I guess he was just defending his baby, jk lol, both are great cars

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[ducati955]

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

Simple Jap cars? What, are you from the south or something. So you are telling me that the RB26DETT Skyline engine and 2JZGTE Supra engine are simple Jap engines that aren't as sophisticated as German engines. Okay, keep dreaming. Anyway, both are inline sixes, both use downpipes that aren't any more sophisticated than the N54 engine, and these downpipes are half the cost of the RISS downpipes. Regardless, I can understand the inflated price. It's the same reason why an exhaust that adds no horsepower for the Carrera GT costs $10,000. But what gets me is that you somehow think "German" cars are inherently better than "Jap" (and I would prefer the term Japanese) cars. You do realize that the GTR was banned from Group A racing because it won the championship year after year, beating all the German manufacturers. You do realize that for reliability, Honda rates number one, and that the Germans, though much better than they have been in the past, are still not in the top 5. Do I love German cars, of course. I'd buy a Porsche or BMW in a heartbeat, but I would never be so ignorant as to think they are better than "simple Jap cars." If the N54 engine can handle 500hp with simple bolt ons and not blow up, you can then say it is at least as good as the RB26 or 2JZ engines. However, given the fact that they have overheating problems bone stock, I doubt that's going to happen. Simple Jap cars, that's just amazing. Make sure you fly your confederate flag high.

+1 i love my 335i, but for some reason, having a 4 cyl tacoma w/ 38 inch tires and tons of mods and never ever letting me down is priceless........
i'm sure i'll be having problems w/ the bm at some point, toyota, no problems ever.........

[scalbert]

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

What, are you from the south or something.

I would like clarification of this statement. Vague assertions are a terrible way to convey a point in the Internet. I could turn it around and say that much of the lower income area near the greater Los Angeles area is a criminal wasteland full of ignorance and hatred. But that would not be fair to the majority who are innocent.

Originally Posted by onefastdoc

You do realize that for reliability, Honda rates number one, and that the Germans, though much better than they have been in the past, are still not in the top 5.

While I agree that Honda do make reliable vehicles, I wonder where your information on Honda being top was derived? The reason I ask is that the JD Power study is often accepted as a semi-standard, although I do not always agree with the determination methods, has a different outlook. The top was Buick along side of Lexus. Imagine that, a domestic brand, at the top of a reliability study. To top it off, domestics took 5 out of the top ten which makes the previous debate somewhat moot.

Honda did place in the top 10 at number five with BMW two places behind them. But keep in mind, this study includes owner complaints which can involve misunderstandings of vehicle systems. The luxury, and even the near-luxury brands, often have more sophisticated vehicles when the whole vehicle is included. Case in point, Acura scored lower than Honda most likely due to having more sophisticated vehicles which increases the odds of failures. But what this does highlight is that Lexus is phenomenal with reliability. But in the end, the domestics rule reliability.

Now back to downpipe discussions. While I do wish they were less expensive, they are less than the B5 S4 downpipes which now generally run near $1500.

[WAYNEBO]

Originally Posted by mantis

yah dude.. those are real shiny.. i was thinking of installing them on top of the hood. it's a waste to have them covered

maybe i'll buy one for a necklace chain or something next to my 20" clock that hangs off my neck kakaka

LMFAO!!!!

[WAYNEBO]

ahhh... if only I could skip a mortgage payment. I would have all the mods on this forum. (dreaming)

[oddjob2021]

we have gotten sooo off topic LOL i guess the reason the mods aren't closing the thred is because we're waiting to hear back from RR?

[sambonator]

So what is Charlie going to school for anyway?

[Acap14]

Can i get an updated on CEl's with the catless dps?