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      10-27-2021, 07:14 AM   #1
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What's considered "high mileage"?

What does everyone consider high mileage? And when you think of mileage are you thinking about resale or life/maintenance?

I know if you look it up its stated that high mileage is anything over 10,000-12,000 miles per year, but I've always based it on total mileage. Maybe that's because I look at it from a maintenance standpoint. A MY2016 with 100k miles is considered high mileage, but IMO so is a MY1996 with 100k miles. Yes, the 2016 has seen 20k miles per year where the 1996 has only seen 6k miles per year, but they have both seen 100k miles of wear and tear and will likely start to require more maintenance and care soon.

Obviously when shopping for a vehicle I'm going to pay attention to miles vs age, and a 2020 with 50k miles is going to be considered high mileage for its age, but from a maintenance standpoint it has plenty of life left in it.

I'm curious because I see so many posts making it sound like anything with 50-100k miles is old and ready to die, and that just doesn't make sense to me. Curious on everyone's thoughts
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What does everyone consider high mileage? And when you think of mileage are you thinking about resale or life/maintenance?

I know if you look it up its stated that high mileage is anything over 10,000-12,000 miles per year, but I've always based it on total mileage. Maybe that's because I look at it from a maintenance standpoint. A MY2016 with 100k miles is considered high mileage, but IMO so is a MY1996 with 100k miles. Yes, the 2016 has seen 20k miles per year where the 1996 has only seen 6k miles per year, but they have both seen 100k miles of wear and tear and will likely start to require more maintenance and care soon.

Obviously when shopping for a vehicle I'm going to pay attention to miles vs age, and a 2020 with 50k miles is going to be considered high mileage for its age, but from a maintenance standpoint it has plenty of life left in it.

I'm curious because I see so many posts making it sound like anything with 50-100k miles is old and ready to die, and that just doesn't make sense to me. Curious on everyone's thoughts
Depends on the vehicle. I'd consider an F80 with 100k miles high mileage (not a problem, just will need maintenance), whereas 100k on a Toyota Land Cruiser means absolutely nothing.
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If you ask efthreeoh, 400k miles is still new
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Problem is a lot of the vehicle ages over time, with or without high mileage.

I've bought a couple of vehicles (as a second car) with high mileage, at 18 months old, something like 40k miles. Cheap purchases, then, with low annual mileage, average mileage by the time I sold them.

My current car is 10-years old and still less than 64k miles. Drives like new, but it's age is not completely hidden. You have to be prepared for extra maintenance, even without the miles.

I've known users with up to 200k miles and little extra maintenance required. It's how those miles are added and over what period, which can make a difference.
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depends on the car.

modern ferrari/lambo with over 15-20k miles would be considered high mileage.

I agree with what you said, but mileage per year, rather than total miles, tells you how a car was usually driven (daily driver vs weekend car).
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As had been commented on here...depends on a number of factors. Obviously on relatively new car, 10-12K a year is not bad. Even 14K. Have to consider if a warranty is still in play. If I was buying a used car, I would want enough miles to use in the warranty period. Out of warranty, depends on the deal and the car.

Another wrinkle...what about a new vehicle on a dealers lot. Test drives add miles, what is high mileage here.
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For standard cars, trucks, and SUV's average mileage is 15,000 a year. 12,000 is considered low, and anything under 10,000 is where you're going to get money back when you trade it in.

However, NOT ALL cars are treated this way. The M2, for example, only gives you 5,000 miles a year, and anything beyond that will be considered high mileage. Don't believe me? Ask your insurance company.

Ultimate high mileage is usually defined as when you start getting into the heavier maintenance, and that again, depends on the car.

Ever read the back of a DuPont Registry with these Ferrari's with 3,000 miles on them having had their 35,000 mile service? You can't let most cars sit either.

High mileage for the M2/M3/M4, yearly, is anything over 5,000, and ultimate high mileage is when the heavier maintenance starts.
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Mileage per year has been covered. That is useful only when assessing new cars as they age, comparatively to other same-age cars.

However, regardless of year, once a car hits 100k miles it starts to become way less valuable in the used/auction market, regardless of age.

That's how I see it though. A 200k mile car will almost always be worthless in the auction world, and only valuable to enthusiasts.
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If you ask efthreeoh, 400k miles is still new
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High mileage is just a state of mind.
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Mileage per year has been covered. That is useful only when assessing new cars as they age, comparatively to other same-age cars.

However, regardless of year, once a car hits 100k miles it starts to become way less valuable in the used/auction market, regardless of age.

That's how I see it though. A 200k mile car will almost always be worthless in the auction world, and only valuable to enthusiasts.
The value of a car should only be what is its value to you, the owner. The price is dictated by the car's value to someone else.
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If/when I get another car I would be looking for something that had done between 50/60,000 miles, that's more important to me than age.
My 2006 e92 35i has now done 124,500 miles, which I'd say is high mileage, it had done 54,000 when I bought it in 2011.
I would only buy a car with same kind of mileage as my 35i from a long term enthusiast owner that documented all the work done, someone like myself
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High mileage is just a state of mind.
Agreed. I've seen some absolutely trashed 30K cars and I sold one that had 160K on it and I know the 3rd owner of it now with almost 250K and still going strong.

I buy my cars at 1-3 years old, 30K-40K (NEVER take an extended warranty) and drive them till they hit at LEAST 150K before I sell. That has been my MO for 30 years now with 6-7 cars and I have *knocks wood* never had one crater on me. These are my DD's by the way - not my "fun" cars.

I maintain my cars myself, always fix anything that is broken no matter how minor, and usually my cars sell within 1-2 weeks of listing. They are always clean and get snapped up quick - even though I price them at the top of the local market. It helps my cars are usually well equipped and interiors are immaculate.

With what I have saved on not buying extended warranties I could buy a new car, so if i ever take a hit - I'll probably still be ahead. I like my cars spotless and take time to find one that is. People who are meticulous about keeping their cars clean (especially the interiors) usually take good care of them, so that helps me.

Highest mileage car I have ever bought was at 67K, but the price was impossible to pass up and I crossed my fingers and dove in. It wound up being one of the cheapest per year cars I ever owned.

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>100k miles in total
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>20k miles per year
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If you get rid of a BMW at 100,000 miles, you are wasting your money.

It's actually better to drive a car 20,000 miles per year, especially a BMW.
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If you get rid of a BMW at 100,000 miles, you are wasting your money.

It's actually better to drive a car 20,000 miles per year, especially a BMW.
Yes agree, that's what I have done/am doing.
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