New Video: 2023 G87 M2 Spied Testing! Pics & Videos

ChrisM4 · 03-12-2021, 04:11 PM

I hope those front fender flares are some sort of cladding as those are some seriously sharp angles.

MadBimmeRad · 03-12-2021, 04:17 PM

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are you talking about G87, G87C, G87CS?

If just G87, why would they put CF roof and adaptive suspension in it? What would that leave them to play with when it comes to the higher C & CS iterations of the platform?

Agreed. I am new to BMW, and have my M2C on order, so I don't have a lot of experience with the technology and enhancement changes between model generations; but they just got done charging $20K for that stuff, and I'm not sure how upset they would want all those CS owners who just paid up for it. I think it's great to be hopeful, but I don't see it happening.

Totally.

I'm one of those CS owners and would be pretty pissed if they did that. In fact if they do something like that, my F87 M2 CS will be the last BMW I'll ever buy.

JustChris · 03-13-2021, 03:22 AM

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If this new M2 size and weight is more then my M2C. Then i am done buying a new BMW as a fun car.

Well we can pretty much guarantee that right now.

It will be slightly bigger.
It's probably slightly heavier.

JustChris · 03-13-2021, 03:25 AM

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are you talking about G87, G87C, G87CS?

If just G87, why would they put CF roof and adaptive suspension in it? What would that leave them to play with when it comes to the higher C & CS iterations of the platform?

Agreed. I am new to BMW, and have my M2C on order, so I don't have a lot of experience with the technology and enhancement changes between model generations; but they just got done charging $20K for that stuff, and I'm not sure how upset they would want all those CS owners who just paid up for it. I think it's great to be hopeful, but I don't see it happening.

Indeed but the M3/4 have all those things and still will be having CS and GTS models.

I think the next M2 will have a CF roof and adaptive suspension. Just speculation and my opinion at this point in time.

I also don't think it's any reason really for a current M2CS to get bent out of shape. They've bought a classic M car ... but there is always a next gen coming. It will be a little heavier and bigger and that alone is worth the $ to the current owners.

Artemis · 03-13-2021, 06:55 AM

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why would they put CF roof and adaptive suspension in it? What would that leave them to play with when it comes to the higher C & CS iterations of the platform?

Because of E92 M3, F82 M4 and G80/G82 M3/M4 ?

With the G87 M2 BMW could keep CFRP roof for M2 CS or M2 CSL territory. Or include it as part of some expensive "CFRP galore pack".

Anyways, G87 test mules still feature a metal roof for the time being.

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Artemis · 03-13-2021, 07:08 AM

About the G87 M2 length.

My guesstimate: close to E46 M3 length (keeping it 4500mm-ish).

See also this old thread (2014) ("M Cars Get Wider, and Wider, and Wider").

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BMWGirlFL · 03-13-2021, 08:21 AM

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About the G87 M2 length. My guesstimate: close to E46 M3 length (keeping it 4500mm-ish).

Have you made a wheelbase guesstimate?

W/// · 03-13-2021, 09:03 AM

Cannot wait:

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https://www.motor1.com/news/493660/b...y-photos-snow/

Karmic Man · 03-13-2021, 08:01 PM

Lots of room for wide wheels and fat tyres

buckybadger · 03-14-2021, 10:56 PM

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Lots of room for wide wheels and fat tyres

For some reason, that wheels don't look staggered.

I speculate adaptive suspension and CF roof being optional.

NickyC · 03-14-2021, 11:05 PM

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The latest photos look like a F82 M4.

Please make it so.

Way too early, but those latest pics show sunken in wheels like on the G8x that look terrible. Pop those suckers out.

MadBimmeRad · 03-15-2021, 03:38 AM

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Quick reminder

Imagine going from current 2 series to this. God I swear half of the BMW needs to get fired.

I'm sorry for the rude interruption, but only half? Surely they'd still be producing half-shit designs?

Hahah, the other half hopefully comes to it senses and understands if they continue in the same manner, the axe will come for them too...
other than that it's a nice looking gt86

That's funny, Supra is a Z4 and M2 a mummified 86

BMthusiast · 03-15-2021, 11:58 AM

Wideness looking great! The stock hoodbump is looking exciting. Loving those mirrors too. Give me Individual Paint options, 500+ wtq and take all my money.

chapmans · 03-15-2021, 04:08 PM

That looks fantastic. This looks like a real successor to my E46 M3, I'm already trying to get on lists.

My only real reservation is I'm not a big fan of the full digital cluster but I'll get over it.

jpy1980 · 03-15-2021, 10:11 PM

I'm hoping and praying that it looks awesome, but just like these spy shots, sometimes I'm happy with what I see and sometimes, I'm sad.

RugbyBro · 03-15-2021, 10:16 PM

Has the engine been confirmed for G87? I only see some third hand speculation that it will have detuned S58. It would make total sense because it’s easy from a supply chain perspective which seems to be BMWs primary concern these days. I guess the only risk with that would be potentially cannibalizing G80/2 sales, but AMG seems to be able to throw the same TT V8 in literally everything so that’s the counter example to this risk

Karmic Man · 03-15-2021, 11:43 PM

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Has the engine been confirmed for G87? I only see some third hand speculation that it will have detuned S58. It would make total sense because it’s easy from a supply chain perspective which seems to be BMWs primary concern these days. I guess the only risk with that would be potentially cannibalizing G80/2 sales, but AMG seems to be able to throw the same TT V8 in literally everything so that’s the counter example to this risk

That’s it, the S58

Having the S58 in the M2 will not cannibalise the M3/M4. One is a largish sedan, one is a 2 door whale, one is a relatively compact coupe. They serve different lifestyles and it’s great that no matter which body you choose, you still get to enjoy the S58.

GarageMadness · 03-16-2021, 12:19 AM

Not impressed but will keep an open mind. Looks like the current G80 cars in two door form. It will offer more power, more tech but it's also looks to be larger in size than the current M2 it replaces. We shall see.

MadBimmeRad · 03-16-2021, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Has the engine been confirmed for G87? I only see some third hand speculation that it will have detuned S58. It would make total sense because it's easy from a supply chain perspective which seems to be BMWs primary concern these days. I guess the only risk with that would be potentially cannibalizing G80/2 sales, but AMG seems to be able to throw the same TT V8 in literally everything so that's the counter example to this risk

I think S58 is the only engine they really can put in it because of the emissions control rules in Europe. The only other alternative is the B58 I guess, but is it really?

With a maximum of 375 kW/600Nm, it could potentially do the job but when they do another CS, it certainly won't be the B58 they'd be using.

Hence I think S58 is it.

stein_325i · 03-16-2021, 08:15 AM

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one is a 2 door whale

MmmmmM2 · 03-16-2021, 11:45 AM

There is just something so elegant and simplified in the M2 Comp gauges. I love it.

tracer bullet · 03-16-2021, 02:07 PM

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... simplified ... I love it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I'd call it lacking (oil temp, pressure) and hate it. Well, hate's too strong, but I'd be sad and annoyed.

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