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      05-07-2024, 12:35 PM   #353
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Andrea Stella's hug with Lando is pretty much what the world needs rn. My eyes might've gotten a little sweaty right then
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It was reportedly there to help drivers sight the curb

Hammy reported having trouble after Max took it out.
Having driven it on a sim, I could understand why drivers might want that there. With the dropoff after the turn, the apex and rest of the curb aren't all that visible... combine that with the terrible vision the drivers have out of these cars, they might not be able to see much of the curb at all coming into that corner.
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Having driven it on a sim, I could understand why drivers might want that there. With the dropoff after the turn, the apex and rest of the curb aren't all that visible... combine that with the terrible vision the drivers have out of these cars, they might not be able to see much of the curb at all coming into that corner.
Surprised it is heavy enough to damage cars. Maybe they can find a better solution next year.

Edit: The base caused the damage.
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      05-07-2024, 04:33 PM   #357
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Surprised it is heavy enough to damage cars. Maybe they can find a better solution next year.

Edit: The base caused the damage.
Agreed, I'm surprised they didn't have a better or maybe more flexible anchor system in place.
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Surprised it is heavy enough to damage cars. Maybe they can find a better solution next year.

Edit: The base caused the damage.
The damage done, thanks for putting it on KBD.
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Look at the size of the first RB car compared to the current one, am I the first here to say the FIA are being silly with their rules. The cars should be lighter and smaller than the current gargantuans.
In 2026 we'll be watching races with Frankenstein cars .
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In 2026 we'll be watching races with Frankenstein cars .
We now know why the FIA were planning from the early time (re my comparison with the RB1 and the huge 20 as an example) all the time to eventually grow big enough to accommodate these pos hybrid/EV power units.
A separate F1 style series has been suggested many times before to stop the rot and break the FIA stranglehold.
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Surprised it is heavy enough to damage cars. Maybe they can find a better solution next year.

Edit: The base caused the damage.
It's ridiculous as the base of that slim bollard looks to have been SCREWED into the track layer to hold it firmly, whoever thought of that and allowed it to be mounted like that is not fit to be anywhere near a race track.
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In 2026 we'll be watching races with Frankenstein cars .
Maybe you will but I'm going WEC for my auto fun. The FIA has jumped the shark on 2026 rules. They better slow the F2's down or it's going to be embarrassing. This life long F1 fan is likely to tap out in 2026.
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Oh HELL, the race director must be fired and banished immediately!!!

The Safety Car rules were NOT followed properly. The director must have acted with malice of forethought just like Masi.

THIS CANNOT STAND

Ferrari team principal Frederic Vasseur emphasized how a safety car mistake during the Miami Grand Prix benefited Lando Norris, describing McLaren's advantage as "a stroke of luck" due to the error.
He pointed out that when the safety car was deployed, it mistakenly picked up Max Verstappen instead of Norris, who was leading after his rivals had pitted. This allowed Norris to extend his stint and pit without pressure, as he emerged in front of the safety car instead of behind it, securing his lead without the threat of losing it to Red Bull.
"I would say that probably Lando [Norris] was a bit lucky, because he was the only one on track,"
"But more than this, I think it's the fact that they put the safety car in front of [Max] Verstappen.”
"They are so used to having Verstappen leading the pack that they sent the safety car in front of him and the safety car was quite slow and it was a very good move at the end for Lando."
VIA: [RacingNews365]

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Norris was ahead of pit lane when the safety car came out. They then let all the cars pass the safety car so Lando didn't get a lap advantage from the situation. All per FIA rules.

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"It was a late call to send the safety car out, so they missed [Lando] Norris by about 20 meters," the FIA said.

"And then at that point race control decided to go for a slow lap to gather all the cars and to allow the marshals to start the recovery of the vehicle, which wouldn’t have been possible if they’d let all cars pass the SC [safety car] directly. So they waited until all cars were gathered together before allowing them to pass."
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Norris was ahead of pit lane when the safety car came out. They then let all the cars pass the safety car so Lando didn't get a lap advantage from the situation. All per FIA rules.
Obviously I was being a bit facetious and argumentative but it wasn't "all per FIA rules."

The safety car is supposed to pickup the leader. VER wasn't the leader.

The FIA followed the spirit of the law not letting NOR gain a lap. But Freddie was pointing out NOR gained an advantage because the FIA didn't follow the letter of the law.

Point is there is always going to be luck and gray areas in racing.
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Obviously I was being a bit facetious and argumentative but it wasn't "all per FIA rules."

The safety car is supposed to pickup the leader. VER wasn't the leader.

The FIA followed the spirit of the law not letting NOR gain a lap. But Freddie was pointing out NOR gained an advantage because the FIA didn't follow the letter of the law.

Point is there is always going to be luck and gray areas in racing.
I disagree. My understanding is that there's nothing that says the safety car has to come out in front of the leader, just that any cars between the safety car and the leader need to be let through - which they did allow. The safety car could have come out in front of anyone, it just happened to come out in front of Max.
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I disagree. My understanding is that there's nothing that says the safety car has to come out in front of the leader, just that any cars between the safety car and the leader need to be let through - which they did allow. The safety car could have come out in front of anyone, it just happened to come out in front of Max.
Foxeyboy, wake up, you're missing the point by a few miles. The safety car is there for Verstappen's advantage only. When the safety car helps other drivers, it's against the laws of the universe. Donchaknow ? Get on with the programme. (Loads and loads of sarcasm)
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I disagree. My understanding is that there's nothing that says the safety car has to come out in front of the leader, just that any cars between the safety car and the leader need to be let through - which they did allow. The safety car could have come out in front of anyone, it just happened to come out in front of Max.
Actually don't know, as I said, just being argumentative...As far as I remember the Safety Car always picks up the leader

Fred had an issue with it.
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Foxeyboy, wake up, you're missing the point by a few miles. The safety car is there for Verstappen's advantage only. When the safety car helps other drivers, it's against the laws of the universe. Donchaknow ? Get on with the programme. (Loads and loads of sarcasm)
If the laws of the universe were just only Ferrari would get help
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Actually don't know, as I said, just being argumentative...As far as I remember the Safety Car always picks up the leader

Fred had an issue with it.
yeah, no worries, just what I read in the article, which makes sense, if they need a quick safety car, they can't always get it out in front of the leader, sometimes it just needs to come out where it comes out. They tried to catch Norris, but didn't quite get it. Either way, he probably would have still came out in the lead since pretty much everyone else was going to pit under SC as well.
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