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      05-16-2008, 06:46 PM   #1
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V3 dynos?

Any customers with V3's get dynos done yet?
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      05-17-2008, 09:06 AM   #2
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      05-17-2008, 12:43 PM   #3
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Zoeb from www.wheeldude.com dyno'd his (and that was what Shiv posted, it wasn't from his own car)

I was going to dyno mine last week, but 100 degrees is just too hot to spend time in a dyno cell. Look for some results next week.
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Zoeb from www.wheeldude.com dyno'd his (and that was what Shiv posted, it wasn't from his own car)

I was going to dyno mine last week, but 100 degrees is just too hot to spend time in a dyno cell. Look for some results next week.
Shiv dynoed it, not Zoeb.

I would like to see some from cars that customers dyno. It is not that I dont trust shiv, it is just that not many people have been able to match his numbers....ever
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      05-17-2008, 12:45 PM   #5
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I thought I would have 400 whp from V2... boy was I wrong..
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      05-17-2008, 12:50 PM   #6
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Shiv dynoed it, not Zoeb.

I would like to see some from cars that customers dyno. It is not that I dont trust shiv, it is just that not many people have been able to match his numbers....ever
Well, it was Zoeb's car, though. Are you saying that Shiv did something different with his car? I've dyno'd a few times on that same dyno with other cars, and without Shiv, and it seems to read the same as the other dynojets in the area. (My supercharged e36 M3 made 311rwhp there and 308rwhp at Dynospot racing later)
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Well, it was Zoeb's car, though. Are you saying that Shiv did something different with his car? I've dyno'd a few times on that same dyno with other cars, and without Shiv, and it seems to read the same as the other dynojets in the area. (My supercharged e36 M3 made 311rwhp there and 308rwhp at Dynospot racing later)
No, what I am saying is that not many people match the numbers that Shiv puts up.

You can decide why that is.

I am not saying anything bad, just stating the obvious....
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Shiv is gonna be there when I dyno, but we're not going to do anything special (fool the dyno airtemp sensor, or anything else shady) I'm running the Stage 0 map straight off the Vishnu forums. Hopefully, mine will be considered valid
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Shiv is gonna be there when I dyno, but we're not going to do anything special (fool the dyno airtemp sensor, or anything else shady) I'm running the Stage 0 map straight off the Vishnu forums. Hopefully, mine will be considered valid
I think you are taking what I am saying the wrong way. I am not saying shiv is doing anything shady, or running race gas, or anything else. All I am saying is that not many customers can match the numbers that he has put up.

This applies for almost every tuner out there.
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One thing that would be interesting to see would be for Zoeb to go and dyno his car at a different dynojet with you.....
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When I ge the V3...I mean...If I get the V3, I'll dyno it on the same exact dyno that I've done all my dyno runs.

I'm very excited to run the new V3 but nobody is returning my messages to get one. I thought I had some status, but I guess not.
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I dyno'd the same numbers as TTurbobullet did with his Attache DP/FMIC map... and I am far away from NJ thats for sure. I am only posting 14.94 lbs of boost. But I think the reason for the differences in his Dynos and everyone elses is the tq settings..
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When I ge the V3...I mean...If I get the V3, I'll dyno it on the same exact dyno that I've done all my dyno runs.

I'm very excited to run the new V3 but nobody is returning my messages to get one. I thought I had some status, but I guess not.
You should not need status to get just a reply from a phone call. Hence why I no longer run Proceed or Helix.
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ill dyno my 535i monday Just waiting for it to get out of service. I had one 4 hour trip with v3 and thats it. Ill post soon as I get it done
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When I ge the V3...I mean...If I get the V3, I'll dyno it on the same exact dyno that I've done all my dyno runs.

I'm very excited to run the new V3 but nobody is returning my messages to get one. I thought I had some status, but I guess not.
We've received close to a hundred PMs in the last few days about v3 inquiries. I've not responded to most of them yet because i've been busy doing 29.2 testing in order to figure out if we need to make any changes to the PnP harness or wire pack upgrade. I'm not trying to ignore ANYONE. About the only people I've been responding to are current v3 users. I do expect to have the online order links up this week (yeah, I know that's been said before). Dustin just finished the install video and I'm almost done with documentation (much of it is about dyno testing, btw).

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for what it's worth, Zoeb's dyno was done on a 3rd party dyno... not on the dyno shiv has always used.

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Shiv dynoed it, not Zoeb.

I would like to see some from cars that customers dyno. It is not that I dont trust shiv, it is just that not many people have been able to match his numbers....ever
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for what it's worth, Zoeb's dyno was done on a 3rd party dyno... not on the dyno shiv has always used.
I understand.

I still look forward to seeing other dynos. Period.
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Any customers with V3's get dynos done yet?

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Unless you can keep intake temp withing 10-15deg C of ambient on the dyno (need a pretty good fan), the dyno numbers aren't going to be representative of the power you make on the road. I'm writing up a dyno testing guide for those who want to dyno there car. Since v3 adjusts for boost and timing with respect to intake charge temp, you will typically see less boost and more ignition retard on the dyno than you do on the street. All this can be captured through datalogging, btw. So you can see it for yourself.

This, btw, is also the reason that cars that have upgraded FMICs will automatically make more power with v3.

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I understand.

I still look forward to seeing other dynos. Period.
I haven't personally dyno'd the V3 on my car yet, only Shiv has, however when I first got V1 installed I dyno'd @ a shop in hayward and #'s were still great

I dont think I have the graphs anymore, but from what I remember it was pretty much inline with all the other graphs he was posting @ the time
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I haven't personally dyno'd the V3 on my car yet, only Shiv has, however when I first got V1 installed I dyno'd @ a shop in hayward and #'s were still great

I dont think I have the graphs anymore, but from what I remember it was pretty much inline with all the other graphs he was posting @ the time
I understand. When you get a chance you should dyno the car yourself. Regardless of if you decide too or not I am sure that there will be more customer dynos coming out soon.
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