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      01-15-2024, 03:31 PM   #5941
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      01-15-2024, 04:25 PM   #5942
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-20C in Chicago, I feel sorry for anyone trapped with a dead EV. Need a Canada Goose jacket there!
We call that winter in Canada.
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      01-15-2024, 05:29 PM   #5943
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I'll get us back to the theme of the thread...

I was just over at the EV forum I hang out at. There is a thread about a dude who lives is Pennsylvania and yesterday he and his wife took a trip in his EV to visit Friends and to go out to dinner. The the distance was 198 miles round trip. His EV's range estimator said the car had 230 miles of charge. He drove it 300 feet and the range dropped from 230 to 190. Short story is he had to charge mid trip and drove back home with just the seat heater on for his wife.

I just don't get this. Really. Buy a $50,000 car that you can't use the heat in the winter and have your wife freeze her ass off? My reply to the thread was he should have used ICE for the trip. Ironic isn't it?
EV= excellent way to piss off your wife, partner or whatever sitting in the same EV with you
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Who's with me?
Especially it is a Toyota, it will keeping running......
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      01-15-2024, 08:07 PM   #5945
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I’m with you.
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      01-15-2024, 08:48 PM   #5946
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Won't know when,won't know where but may happen when least expecting
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Fire to fire and ashes to ashes !

Amen ...

Porsche Taycan ev catching fire? Never !
Best stick with a 911 Turbo which is much less expensive, fast and reliable.
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      01-16-2024, 12:32 PM   #5951
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Won't know when,won't know where but may happen when least expecting
But at least it is free of charge and 100% for sure you will burn down to ash.
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But at least it is free of charge and 100% for sure you will burn down to ash.
...or your garage and house
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...or your garage and house
If I ever own a EV, I will put in the best of the best carbon dioxide fire suppression system in my garage. My life is priceless and I don't want to burn to the ground with the EV in the middle of the night. But with all the extra cost, why not just keep driving ICE and keep life simple.
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If I ever own a EV, I will put in the best of the best carbon dioxide fire suppression system in my garage. My life is priceless and I don't want to burn to the ground with the EV in the middle of the night. But with all the extra cost, why not just keep driving ICE and keep life simple.
Why take the risk when it is likely the car would burn your house down? I would let professionals like myself use these cars. Save you and your family from a fiery death.
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If I ever own a EV, I will put in the best of the best carbon dioxide fire suppression system in my garage. My life is priceless and I don't want to burn to the ground with the EV in the middle of the night. But with all the extra cost, why not just keep driving ICE and keep life simple.
I don't know what the big deal is with ppl thinking 'I must get an EV at all costs'

Whatever you do don't ever put an EV into your garage, keep the thing outside to protect the house and keep the occupants safe.
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I don't know what the big deal is with ppl thinking 'I must get an EV at all costs'

Whatever you do don't ever put an EV into your garage, keep the thing outside to protect the house and keep the occupants safe.
I know where i will park my EV if I have a troublesome neighbor. Opps

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I know where i should park my EV if I have a troublesome neighbor. Opps
He has to be a really bad one for that
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A person in my extended family owns an insurance brokerage firm. I asked him last night if insurance companies are evaluating fire risk if an EV is parked inside an insured home garage or within home structure like a lean-to. He said absolutely they are and EV owners should expect to see home insurance increases in the coming years because of this risk. He said insurance companies understand an ICE car parked within a home structure poses fire risk and that is already backed into premiums (the risk considered low), but with EVs, the concern is the extreme heat, intensity, prolonged burn, and more toxic vapors of an EV battery fire.

I also asked about charging stations in the home and he said there isn't much chatter about that and if there was a fire caused by the charging station, they'd likely go after the installer in most cases, unless of course the home owner installed one themselves without a permit (most municipalities require some type of permit for install). If that's the case, the home owner may be out of luck with coverage.
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That's cold even for this forum.

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Why Teslas Won’t Charge in Freezing Temps
1/16/24
Tesla owners in the Chicago area are finding themselves in a huge pickle this week with temps dipping into the negative double-digits. As drivers seek fast charging through Tesla’s Supercharger network, the cold weather is so severe it’s preventing vehicles from accepting a charge.
EVs don’t take well to charging in subzero temps because their batteries need to be at optimal operational warmth. In most seasons, this isn’t an issue. But in hypercold conditions, the battery must be preconditioned.
According to Tesla’s Model S owner’s manual, “Tesla recommends activating climate settings at least 30-45 minutes before departure (see Operating Climate Controls). Preconditioning times depend on outside temperature and other factors. The mobile app will notify you once your vehicle has reached the desired preconditioning temperature.”
It’s possible the stacks of Tesla drivers stranded at Supercharger stations didn’t precondition their batteries. At this time, Tesla cars don’t have a manual preconditioning procedure. So, at a certain point, a dead Tesla stuck outside in subzero weather simply won’t accept a charge. They’ll have to be towed somewhere warmer, like an indoor setting with a charger. That would be the indoor facility heated by..... wait for it...... wait for it...... Yes Fossil fuels
https://www.motorbiscuit.com/why-tes...reezing-temps/

Kind of a shame to pick on Tesla on this one as this will effect any EV or any thing with a battery. My Kubota diesel was pretty dam unhappy at 14deg this morning but it started. Now here is the kicker. When a cold snap hits and when green idiots and stupid politicians do permanent damage to our power grid, Do you think they are going to let you have their precious electrons for your car when people are freezing to death?
If you answered yes, you are a moron and deserve what ever happens to you.
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