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Just the opposite - the ones loving the 90's design started retiring and buying MBs...
It was about time to attract NEW fans (like myself). If BMW hadn't moved on, I would not be driving one now. And I like the new 2 GC.
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02-06-2020, 03:01 PM | #91 |
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Who killed what? The 2 series coupé is still produced and the only thing we know about the successor is that it will be RWD.
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02-06-2020, 04:39 PM | #95 |
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The back of it looks like a dodge dart
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02-06-2020, 04:47 PM | #96 |
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I ask again, what was killed? If you don't like the gran coupé, then get an M2 or M240i instead. Or does the addition of a new body style make the others worse somehow?
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02-06-2020, 04:56 PM | #97 |
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I will never ever ever ever ever ever ever get used to that grille.
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02-06-2020, 08:10 PM | #99 |
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My gosh the 2 series gran coupe is so ugly...SOOOOO UGLY, what the hell were they thinking.
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02-06-2020, 08:57 PM | #100 |
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Not at all. The Dart's rear end looks much better and far more cohesive and proportionate. In fact, the entire Dart was designed very well. The lines flow well, it has many traditional BMW cues, like the Zicker line and the Hofmeister kink
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02-06-2020, 11:56 PM | #101 | |
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when you make a FWD car, you cut some expenses, gives you a chance to make the cabin more spacious (+3cm more legroom and probably more headroom) and better fuel economy.. most of the 1 series customers do care about the things above.. not performance etc.. they want a better cabin filled with electronics and fuel economy.. and most of them wont even know where to turn off ESP except sportier models.. so here is the catch.. this car will finance BMW to build more performance oriented models in the future.. and you re missing this point..
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What's left now? The M2 and the M3/4? And who knows how long those will last before the bean counters get their hands on them The 1/2 series was awesome and they slit its throat to try to save mini
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The newest trend are the EVs & autonomy, So now they have to adapt, research and develop the tech, so they can stay, competitive, relevant and stay in business. |
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Hideous.. I bet it's a good car and all but I'd personally feel ashamed to drive it.. So it's not for me. If it's for you then go for it, I don't care.
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Seems many an 'enthusiast' has missed where the market has moved to, diesel, SUV, and now in a state of turmoil, as the motor industry moves towards EV. Also remember the 'enthusiast' is also going the way of the dinosaur. For many the performance car is no longer a priority in owning a BMW. The diesel 320d has proven that in many countries. Strange thing, that some enthusiasts don't seem to grasp, other 'enthusiasts', (also valid opinions) don't want an M-car. They just don't fill the brief for many users. The M-performance range are a good compromise. Cars like the new M135i & M235i GC sit there at the bottom of the M-performance range, more choice for those who are in that particular market. |
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