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So this is pretty much the cheaper version of the upcoming 4 series. I loved the sound inside and outside and overall design lines of the interior and the taillights. I think my next car will be 440 either coupe or GC or Nissan 350 with manual
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In the Leipzip plant: https://www.bmwgroup-plants.com/leipzig/en.html
They make the 1 series, the full 2 series range from the 2 active tourer to the M2C, I3 and I8.
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LOL... it's a nice car, but like an M2? Really? Not even close. And I guess I would question the continued micro separation of the product line, is this car even necessary? Same for the 4 series GC. Thought 2 was coupe, 3 was sedan, 4 coupe, etc.? It's confusing to any except the enthusiasts, equally as bad as the AMG line. With the M340i such a nice car all around, my question is why this one. Maybe someone else can explain it... to me, it just dilutes the brand, confuses the consumer, and increases productions costs... for how much market share? Puzzling to me...
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God that car sucks. The proportions are all wrong and scream FWD econo box. BMW really needs to snag the designers from Mazda if they want want to build stylish FWD-based cars. Look at the current gen Mazda 3. It's FWD, but Mazda gave it a long hood which gives it a slight RWD look and it looks elegant, sporty, and somewhat pissed.
This "M235i" is just terrible from a styling standpoint. Yank the BMW badge and funky kidney grill and it looks garden variety Japanese design.
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Luckily for them, they already have a chassis willing to go with the fwd based mini platform. That means they can sell something that has excellent interior packaging, which is probably why they went 4-doors. At the same time BMW sees themselves as this stylish, premium company, so they figured they’d make it extra swoopy and a 4-door coupe. Plus...hey worked for Mercedes. I think that’s also why BMW started pushing the big grille recently, they want people to instantly be able to recognize a car as a BMW, even (especially?) if it’s a fwd based econobox being sold for significantly more money than other, similar fwd based econoboxes. If everyone knows at just a glance that you’re driving a BMW, that extra money for the car hurts less to many people. |
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It seems to me that there was fairly succesful design language in the form of the 2er coupe. Why not start with that? Perhaps they want to distance this car as a distinct SKU, but then why preserve the naming/numbering?
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Sorry, I don't agree with you at all. So when I see a manufacturer that I have a 10 year connection with, struggling with product line dilution, clear vision and direction, and occasional questionable design, I'm going to voice my opinion often and loudly. Just as valid when I compliment them on jobs well done. Lastly, the Kia comment was spot on, with many of the top designers recently moving between companies, specifically Kia and BMW. Personally, I think Kia's are decent cars, but that doesn't mean that I want my BMW's following their design cues. |
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Personally I think all big grilles are ugly, but since the early days of the 300c I can think of only one manufacturer who backed off on their ugly grille design after complaints (Acura) while every other company just doubled and tripled down on them, which ultimately seems like it turned out to be the correct business decision. Which is too bad for all of us with good taste. |
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